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    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    One theme I’ve noticed throughout this whole discussion is a desire to compare Steve Whitmire to these famous Muppet pioneers like Caroll Spinney, Frank Oz, Richard Hunt, or even Jim Henson himself, and try to draw a parallel between Steve’s situation and some real or perceived scenario with...
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    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    First The Hensons were accused of being bribed into speaking against Steve. Now they're being accused of being blackmailed into speaking against him. Come on, guys, they just don't think he has conducted himself appropriately and feel it's time to move on.
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    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    Which Mupetters? Where did you hear it and from who?
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    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    There has to be some source of information beyond a stand alone sentence. If you think what you're saying is true, you should wait to obtain some source of documentation before posting it.
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    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    When did I say anything about Steve's blacklist?
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    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    A statement like that means nothing unless you have a resource to back it up.
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    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    Please provide the link that documents this. Thanks.
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    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    It's not all about commercialism and money. They grew up with their father as he developed Kermit The Frog and other Muppets. I'd say that gives them a little more insight on what Jim intended for the integrity of the characters than most others.
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    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    It's better to use your brain.
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    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    So then, you have a brainstorm.
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    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    The Hensons have more right to an opinion on this than any of us.
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    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    An open mind is good as long as you don't let your brains fall out.
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    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    Then let the jury deliberate.
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    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    At the end of the day, do we really need to know all the details?
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    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    I don’t see why that would happen. He wasn’t dull before he became bitter and upset. Let’s just bring the character back to basics.
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    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    That's why I say, "As much as possible."
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    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    I’m not saying anyone could perform Kermit, but it should be more about the performer’s ability to replicate (as much as possible) Jim’s voice, style, mannerisms, and personality for Kermit, instead of worrying about what new qualities to add. Kermit is already an established character that...
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    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    Anyone after Jim is just an imitator anyway.
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    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    Yes. Too much self-pity and self-boasting.
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    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    I don't know, but here's what one of the Muppets has to say:
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