Question about the release of "The Lorax" in March 2012

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There is no such thing as political correctness in movies and TV, it's all just a myth... I mean if all that were true, there wouldn't be half of what's in this stuff today, like the excessive language, graphic violence, overtly sexual behavior, and otherwise questionable content... I mean how is all THAT politically correct, I ask?

Easy. Glorifying sexual behavior is politically correct. Encouraging abstinence is politically incorrect.

 

[D'Snowth]

Easy. Glorifying sexual behavior is politically correct. Encouraging abstinence is politically incorrect.

With that logic, then NOT showing someone smoking a cigar would be politically incorrect then.

 

[beatnikchick300]

All I'll say about the Lorax is that Hollywood needs to stop making Dr. Seuss books into movies. See Einstein's well-known definition of insanity.

 

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With that logic, then NOT showing someone smoking a cigar would be politically incorrect then.

Political correctness has no logic, lol. It's political incorrect to show a cigar these days (which is one rare occasion where PC makes sense, heh).

 

[Drtooth]

Easy. Glorifying sexual behavior is politically correct. Encouraging abstinence is politically incorrect.

Unfortunately, that's due to the actions of those who want to push abstinence and their real agenda. It's not so much a "be careful of your future" problem (a lot of kids that do that stuff know they have no future, and don't care anyway). In reality it's a "Be a good little automaton and do what we tell you to. We want you to join our side and vote for who we want you to vote for so we can shape the world in our image." That's where it goes wrong. It's not a "we care about rampant teenage sexuality" it's a matter of control and fear.

The problem mostly strikes impoverished school districts where there's no hope of a future for anyone and they might as well have fun doing that because it's all downhill from there anyway. The very same people that push abstinence are the very same people who want their followers to vote for those that pull public school funding, thus actually exacerbating the problem. Like I said, you have no future, what's the point?

Not to mention the whole being pushed by the Gays are evil crowd that believe every single show on television is brainwashing their kids to be...ugh... accepting.

If there were non-religious based woman's charities backing abstinence education, more people would listen.

 

[frogboy4]

Unfortunately, that's due to the actions of those who want to push abstinence and their real agenda. It's not so much a "be careful of your future" problem (a lot of kids that do that stuff know they have no future, and don't care anyway). In reality it's a "Be a good little automaton and do what we tell you to. We want you to join our side and vote for who we want you to vote for so we can shape the world in our image." That's where it goes wrong. It's not a "we care about rampant teenage sexuality" it's a matter of control and fear.

The problem mostly strikes impoverished school districts where there's no hope of a future for anyone and they might as well have fun doing that because it's all downhill from there anyway. The very same people that push abstinence are the very same people who want their followers to vote for those that pull public school funding, thus actually exacerbating the problem. Like I said, you have no future, what's the point?

Not to mention the whole being pushed by the Gays are evil crowd that believe every single show on television is brainwashing their kids to be...ugh... accepting.

If there were non-religious based woman's charities backing abstinence education, more people would listen.

I can't simply like this post and go away. I've got to say that I love this post!

I went to a fantastic religious-based private school, yet their sex education was downright criminal. The message of so many abstinence programs is that the methods of prevention are greatly unreliable. This is a lie that causes a lot of young people to abandon all caution. Unfortunately some people are going to give into their hormones no mater what literature is thrown at them. It's not really an excuse. It's biology. It's important for them to have all the facts if and when they do. I don't see this as being a problem of political correctness. I see a lack of balance from all parts of the equation. All sides in the matter speak to what they believe to be the case than what is.

 

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Unfortunately some people are going to give into their hormones no mater what literature is thrown at them.

This is true and that's why I disagree with people who just say "education is the key" and leave it at that. Young people can have all the facts in the world and still make the wrong choices.

 

[Drtooth]

I went to a fantastic religious-based private school, yet their sex education was downright criminal. The message of so many abstinence programs is that the methods of prevention are greatly unreliable. This is a lie that causes a lot of young people to abandon all caution. Unfortunately some people are going to give into their hormones no mater what literature is thrown at them. It's not really an excuse. It's biology. It's important for them to have all the facts if and when they do. I don't see this as being a problem of political correctness. I see a lack of balance from all parts of the equation. All sides in the matter speak to what they believe to be the case than what is.

There is so much pretend charity going around that has very dark ulterior motives. There's so much I could add to the equation about moral quandaries... but what it comes down to is that sex is an amazingly powerful thing, better or worse. It's taboo because we decide to keep it taboo, and the fact that it is taboo makes it all the more desirable, being forbidden fruit. There are so many better ways to teach abstinence than the cartoonish Family Guy style parody of itself religious groups push. I want to know, where are women's groups coming out and saying what really needs to be said? That A) There's a danger that you'll lose all your future potential if you have to drop out of school and take care of a kid and more importantly B) if you're in a relationship, even one that isn't abusive, where your boyfriend forces you to have sex, you're not in a very good relationship. We like to think black and white, all teenagers that have sex are hussies... but everyone overlooks those relationships where the guy (who has no responsibilities and can leave after the baby's out) either intimidates or persuades the woman to rush to sex. Where's the help there?

Sure, there are those who just don't care. Nothing you can do can get through those people. It's no different than overweight people who don't care about their health. But there does need to be balance, and it needs to come with care instead of force.

 

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Sure, there are those who just don't care. Nothing you can do can get through those people.

Maybe they can't be helped, but they should be prevented in some way from harming others or suffer actual punishment when they do.

where are women's groups coming out and saying what really needs to be said? That A) There's a danger that you'll lose all your future potential if you have to drop out of school and take care of a kid and more importantly B) if you're in a relationship, even one that isn't abusive, where your boyfriend forces you to have sex, you're not in a very good relationship.

Actually I think this is said very often. But many girls and women are simply afraid of being alone and no amount of cold "education" can help with that.

 

[Drtooth]

Actually I think this is said very often. But many girls and women are simply afraid of being alone and no amount of cold "education" can help with that.

That's the more passive type. The ones that are easily persuaded. I hear so many horror stories about abuse, but there's always that too. There are people who are willing to have help, some refuse to listen and suffer the consequences. That just happens, that's life... that's how we learn. If someone doesn't learn from their mistakes, others can. That's the burden of free will and freedom of choice... there's NO freedom from bad choice.

But getting back to the movie subject matter at hand.

Politically Correct DOES bring up some beefs I have with the movie's promotion.

Now, I can kinda respect the fact they didn't want a kid's meal fast food tie in, but how the heck is it any better for them to have a high-caloric carbo-loaded sugar breakfast platter tie in? And for that matter, how come it's such a PR nightmare to be associated with a fast food chain, yet we get promotions for movies about saving whales in Burger King Kid's Meals? There's just something absolutely wrong with that for me. Especially when the movie was a low budget flop and has been out of theaters for 3 months and they STILL have to get rid of soulless plastic Whales.

Also, I give the Lorax people applause for not forcing a bad toy line out upon the world. I could see it doing mildly okay, but then being on deep discount clearance, bouncing around clearance and discount stores until they wind up in dollar stores like the Terminator Salvation and G.I. Joe movie merchandise. But apparently, endorsing "fuel efficient" SUV's (for an SUV, Fuel efficient means you don't have to fill it back up after you leave the gas station) is the higher moral here.

I'm glad that the movie's promotion didn't feature an annoying market spree of wastefulness, don't get me wrong... but it seems everything they do endorse just seems hypocritical.