How Times Have Changed...

[beaker]

Way more people watch tv than go to the movies, so it makes sense to be on tv.

I hate to say it, but the new season premieres/debuted SUCKED. I love Zooey Deschanel and her music, but man...why did she agree to make a total fratboy/bro type dbag sort of show? I could see a show where she's in Brooklyn working at a vinyl record store going to hole in the wall shows. This isn't her.

I LOVVVE Big Bang Theory, but the two new episodes...tumbleweeds. The new office was so so. HATED Whitney...how any guy could stand to be around such a priss...
Community, 30 Rock...ugh.

And the new 2.5 men...was Kutcher suppose to be that dull?

 

[beaker]

Doesn't sound like she really had a super stellar career.

You kidding? Zooey has become in recent years one of the most adored and love actresses ever...probably I'm guessing as her quirky personality makes her seem more believable than all the typical bimbos and Transformer co-star generic type women in Hollywood.

 

[beaker]

I don't even think I've heard of her until this year... and the only movie I recall her in is "Our Idiot Brother" which was released by Weinstine... and I'm not going to say anything else and let everyone else connect the dots.

Oh... and she sang some of the music for Winnie the Pooh. Actually, she sounded pretty good (but the Backson song was the best).

I hope her show does well ONLY if that means that the lead in doesn't ruin Raising Hope's ratings. I LOVE that show. Took me a couple episodes, but I really am glad the My Name is Earl creator managed to get a new show on the air.

Still, I wonder how the love for Ashton on 2.5 Men is going to last. I swear half the people tuned in for the gruesome post Charlie details. I think they should've just wrapped up the darn thing and put Big Bang in their place.

You know, now that I think of it, Alec Baldwin was having a tough time in movies lately, but 30 Rock managed to give him a nice bump in his career... he's one of the funniest people on that show (funnier than Jenna or Tracey are, anyway). heck, I don't think I even cared much for Alec Baldwin until I started really watching 30 Rock.

Hopefully they kill off the Ashton character. I think think of a zillion better Charlie replacements

Still shocked how you never heard of Zooey. I can think of like a dozen movies shes be in, both indie and mainstream. She even got big with her music in a way

Tho its eerie how much she and Katy Perry look similar

 

[Drtooth]

HATED Whitney...how any guy could stand to be around such a priss...

Whitney was the biggest lump of dog crap I've seen on TV in a long time. That's why I think the laugh track sitcom is dead. It's Line laugh line laugh line laugh. it looked like a terrible throwback to the 90's. I LOVE Seinfeld, but I've always hated Friends and Will and Grace. I watched about 5 minutes of Whitney, saw every late 1990's TV trope, and shut the thing off. It was eating away at my brain. And not even a gentle nibbling. A big fat guy with jagged teeth taking huge, violent bites.

Hopefully they kill off the Ashton character. I think think of a zillion better Charlie replacements

Somehow, I felt that casting Ashton was a threat that was supposed to have Charlie running back to the show's producers begging for forgiveness...

I actually editorialized it Here.

I could just picture Charlie going "AAAAHH!!! Not the star of that TERRIBLE remake of Guess Who's Coming to Dinner! PLEASE! ANYTHING but someone who's movie career never took off and was only funny in one TV series! PLEASE GOD NO!!!"

He's alright, just... he's like Kelso, less funny, mind you, in that one episode where he and Jackie had a fight for 2 episodes. I think people turned in for the train wreck/ suspense aspect of it, and the show will lose viewers in droves. I like 2.5 Men, but they should have ended it last year anyway. They were at a nice point, they could have put up with Charlie for 2 more episodes, have him run off crazy at Rose's fake marriage to a mannequin and had Alan get married off to Courtney Thorn Smith. And just ended the show there. It was going through the motions the last 2 seasons anyway...

I hate to say it, but the new season premieres/debuted SUCKED. I love Zooey Deschanel and her music, but man...why did she agree to make a total fratboy/bro type dbag sort of show? I could see a show where she's in Brooklyn working at a vinyl record store going to hole in the wall shows. This isn't her.

I felt the series too much like ABC's Happy Endings (which is okay... I enjoy it better than the 40 year old arrested development drunkards of Cougar Town)... I think they even have the same token American American guy in there... But then again, I only saw like the last 10 minutes of the show. I know Zooey's no Hollywood bimbo and seems to have a gentle spirit to her, but I can't buy her as a dork that can't get a date. Kristen Schaal (or however you spell that), yes. Zooey seems to be more believable in a gentle relationship with a not all that dorky guy. Sort of a Jessie Eisneberg or Michael Cera type guy.

 

[beaker]

I'm a 1000% straight, but I have a not so secret Cera/Eisenberg crush. And I'm glad total nerd type guys are being represented. And unlike the overweight guy paradigm, they aint being relegated to mere comedies.

Yeah the "Office" style of cinema docucomedy has really exploded...though we saw that even earlier with Malcom in the Middle and Bernie Mack's show. Now I *do* like the 90's sitcom template. It works perfectly for BBT. Im a religiously zealous Seinfeld and King of Queens fan, and probably one of the world's only few big Mad About You fans(ALWAYS hated Friends though) My absolute fave "shot on location/no laughtrack" comedy show? Many say Always Sunny or Office, and I love those...but no for me its Curb Your Enthusiasm...which is Prettaaaaay, Prettaaaaay, Pretty Good)


Whitney...ugh, the whole episode(what I saw) was "ooh look how thin and skinny I am, omg life is so hard when youre pretty like me" with the typical kissup yes-man lapdog of a boyfriend catering to her every whim. I'm sure like Susie on Curb or Angela on Office, she's a nice person IRL. But man...she's like every other typical woman who goes through life simply on her aesthetics.
And yeah, there's that vibe with Zooey on that show. "awww...look at me, poor me can't get a date tonight" *big doe eyes* *insert a throng of guys all there wiping her tears*
No wonder you ain't on Facebook. Every girl on there is like that.

Was Kutcher funny on 70's show? Raj from BBT kind of reminds me of that one guy on there. I kind of dig Topher Grace. I'm a half fan of two and a half men. I like about half the episodes. And some episodes, I only like half of them until they descend into endless bickering. Alan needs to just come out of the closet already

 

[Drtooth]

Yeah the "Office" style of cinema docucomedy has really exploded...though we saw that even earlier with Malcom in the Middle and Bernie Mack's show. Now I *do* like the 90's sitcom template. It works perfectly for BBT. Im a religiously zealous Seinfeld and King of Queens fan, and probably one of the world's only few big Mad About You fans(ALWAYS hated Friends though) My absolute fave "shot on location/no laughtrack" comedy show? Many say Always Sunny or Office, and I love those...but no for me its Curb Your Enthusiasm...which is Prettaaaaay, Prettaaaaay, Pretty Good)

Yeah, Mad about You was pretty alright, I especially loved it when Mel Brooks came on. But I never got the appeal of Friends or Will and Grace. The latter was so loud and high pitched, I'm GLAD I didn't have a dog, or it would've gone insane and attacked me. I wish I had the money to buy the Curb your Enthusiam sets or something. Freakin' network syndication stopped showing it. It's like Seinfeld, but even better. All that crap about the Seinfeld curse and those horrible shows former cast members made, but CYE not only captured the spirit of the show, but put the thing on steroids! I wish Camp Lazlo was that strong a follow up of Rocko.

Whitney...ugh, the whole episode(what I saw) was "ooh look how thin and skinny I am, omg life is so hard when youre pretty like me" with the typical kissup yes-man lapdog of a boyfriend catering to her every whim. I'm sure like Susie on Curb or Angela on Office, she's a nice person IRL. But man...she's like every other typical woman who goes through life simply on her aesthetics.
And yeah, there's that vibe with Zooey on that show. "awww...look at me, poor me can't get a date tonight" *big doe eyes* *insert a throng of guys all there wiping her tears*

Whitney was like a bad female comedian stand up routine that turned into a half hour show. The generic "Women have it so hard... even us ones in relationships and are pretty because our friends are so annoying because they're getting married" bit. It wasn't even a well done laugh track sitcom. It was Line laugh line laugh line laugh. How come Chuck Lorre's like the only one that knows how to do this stuff? Actualy, I actually keep forgetting HIMYM even has a laugh track to it. How come everyone but them just makes a cheap Friends knockoff?

That said, I'm SOOOOOO glad ABC got rid of the terrible Better With You show. I hate the concept of various couples in various stages of relationshiphood thing (other than HIMYM, of course since they use it to compliment each other). I also REALLY hate Rules of Engagement... and I thought I'd love it considering it had Kuzco and Kronk together on it. Heck... for the simple fact Patrick Warburton was in it. I love him in everything, and think he was a better Buzz than Tim Allen... but he just sucks like everyone else in Rules.

Was Kutcher funny on 70's show? Raj from BBT kind of reminds me of that one guy on there. I kind of dig Topher Grace. I'm a half fan of two and a half men. I like about half the episodes. And some episodes, I only like half of them until they descend into endless bickering. Alan needs to just come out of the closet already

Ashton was only funny as part of the ensemble. I think Mila Kunis and Hyde kinda brought out the humor of his sequences... but on 2.5 Men he's... he's dull. I really kinda was rooting for John Stamos, but I REALLY wish they replaced Charlie with Jon Lovitz, in character as his more successful jingle writing rival. And just have him keep Alan and Jake in the house to spite him. But the show was getting stale. It was like ... the show I think can best be described by an American Dad gag where Roger makes a ...uh... female anatomy joke, the show breaks and the cast gives him a 1000th female anatomy joke award. I wouldn't be surprised if that was a nod to 2.5. Half the time in 2.5 the jokes are either about specific lady bits or diarrhea.

Seriously, I almost wish they canned that and worked exclusively on Big Bang and put it on Mondays in its time slot.