The Bible and Love and Christians

[Drtooth]

They only feel safe coming out for it after they're nobodies again AND have Secret Service protection (which is something I've never quite understood ... after you're out of a government job ... why should we care if you're alive?).

They could have armed guards protecting them in a tower. It doesn't matter about the safety of their being as the safety of assuring them votes. This all goes back to what I said, politics and religion IS an unholy union. You could say God is in the constitution and Declaration of Independence all you want, but we're supposed to have a separation of church and state. And frankly, I think it matters more about being nonobjective than it's original intent. Politicians just play off people's fears for votes.... that's what a politician is.

On that subject, guess which "Blue" state's Republican senator refuses to be in an "It gets Better" commercial? All votes.

Seriously, I just want the Right to drop the "We're the moral ones, anyone who doesn't agree with our politics on the whole is a heathen pornographer" act. I mean, if you're going to play the fiscal conservatism card (though you ignored it for 8 years) at least play that. That's what you're good at.

 

[D'Snowth]

Ya know, Miley Cyrus finally said something recently that made sense...

So, she got yet another tattoo, this time on her ring finger, to show her support for legalizing gay marriage, and even mentioned that people need to give homosexuals a break, because it says in the Bible that we're not to be judgemental of other people, and that only God has the right to judge people, and that's where a LOT of these uber-Conservative religious fanatics need to realize they're practicing hypocracy: all these Conservative Republicans are always spouting Scripture, and saying they live a very Christ-like life, where they dedicate their lives and career to God and live by His example, and then they go out and bash people who are gay for being gay, pointing their fingers, saying they're an evil cult, and that they're going to **** if they don't repent, yadda-yadda-yadda.

God loves the sinner, but hates the sin, therefore, just because someone is gay doesn't give you the right to look down on them, because they can't help it if it's who they are, just like those who are straight can't help but be who theyare... and rubbing more salt into wounds, that Michelle Bachman's husband actually runs a therapy center where they try to convert homosexuals into being heterosexuals, so that they'll no longer live in sin.

The thing of it is, EVERYONE on this planet, even "saints" live in sin. Sin is everywhere, and it's a part of everyday life. Sarah Palin and her family live in sin (one of the seven deadlies: pride), we're only human, we can't help but sin, being gay may be a sin, but so is lust in general, sleeping with people you're not married to, which is what a lot of these politicians do, thinking they'll get away with it. Killing people is a sin, robbing banks and homes and such is a sin, even lying about something to someone is a sin, no matter what we do, we sin everyday of our lives, and all we can do is ask for forgiveness, and He forgives. But that aside, God's not going to send a homosexual to **** for being gay, in fact, God sends no one to ****, it's the people who don't accept His son as their Lord and Savior who send themselves to ****. There are gay Christians out there, I'm sure, but they won't go to ****, because they've already been saved by Jesus Christ, just like people who may lie, cheat, steal, kill, etc, who are saved by Jesus won't be going to ****... they'll just have lots o 'splainin' to do come Judgement Day.

But, I digress, for once, Miley is right, people need to realize that the Bible says don't judge, and these holier than thou politicians need to remember that's right in the Good Book they're always quoting and using as examples, and stop being so hypocritical; there are far things worse in this country like debt issues, poverty, things that really need to be fixed, than being gay.

On an unrelated note... ehh... why do girls these days have to keep defacing themselves? Not that Miley was a particularly attractive girl to begin with, but tattoos on women is such a turn-off.

 

[Drtooth]

Ya know, Miley Cyrus finally said something recently that made sense...

So, she got yet another tattoo, this time on her ring finger, to show her support for legalizing gay marriage, and even mentioned that people need to give homosexuals a break, because it says in the Bible that we're not to be judgemental of other people, and that only God has the right to judge people, and that's where a LOT of these uber-Conservative religious fanatics need to realize they're practicing hypocracy: all these Conservative Republicans are always spouting Scripture, and saying they live a very Christ-like life, where they dedicate their lives and career to God and live by His example, and then they go out and bash people who are gay for being gay, pointing their fingers, saying they're an evil cult, and that they're going to **** if they don't repent, yadda-yadda-yadda.

I can't wait for conservative families that used her TV show character as a role model whine about that as loud as they did about her wanting o have a career outside of of a stupid kid's show.

I've said it before... there's a rift in this country and the only one winning and the one who started it is massive mega corporations that want us to keep voting for the same people who deregulate them, give them huge tax cuts, corporate welfare, loop holes, moving their companies overseas so they don't have to pay wages.... the right's too hypnotized by the idealistic fairy land of small government, the left thinks either A) their party is not part of the problem or B) if they aren't, they actually have the strength to do something about it.

Civil rights should NEVER be a partisan issue. It elects people who favor the rich more, it sells books from worthless human beings who are paid to get people angry over nothing, and cause a huge disgusting wedge in between voters. Same thing with environmental protection. Who wants to go swimming waste deep in sewage and choke on dirty dusty air?

 

[frogboy4]

My Take on Miley's New Tattoo & Perspective​

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I appreciate the sentiment that's been stated about this recent development. The tide seems to be changing even with those who employs such terms. Miley Cyrus is just the most recent celeb to show support among her peers - and make no mistake that it means a lot coming from her. The tattoo wasn't necessary, yet it does demonstrate this as a belief rather than a cynical ploy to gain more fans. In fact, she has a religiously themed movie in the works and her support for gay marriage equality will be communicated directly to some of those who could benefit hearing it the most. ​

On another note, I'm one of the few people in this city without a tattoo! I'm an artist so my taste is in a perpetual state of transition. A tattoo doesn't allow for much change. Plus, the needles!!! Blech! ​

 

[D'Snowth]

That pic always scares me.

 

[Drtooth]

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On another note, I'm one of the few people in this city without a tattoo! I'm an artist so my taste is in a perpetual state of transition. A tattoo doesn't allow for much change. Plus, the needles!!! Blech! ​

I would've gotten a tattoo to show off my fandom of Kinnikuman (he has a KIN birthmark on his... well, backside), but the needles just sounding too painful for my tastes.

Other than that, it's one of those, if someone wants to do something, let them.

Still, you have to admit, Disney made her do all that purity stuff (same thing they did with the Jonases) for THEIR image (see South Park episode The Ring )... but something about this seems to say that she's breaking free of the TV show that would have made her the "Hanna Montana" girl for the rest of her life. But again, I do expect people who only want her to give fakey corporate socially redeeming values that somehow mesh with their own (ei nothing controversial) will have a snit fit about this saying, "AAUGH! Thet there liberal media is makin' kids cartoons say it's okay to be gay!" and burn her CD's or something.

 

[frogboy4]

I would've gotten a tattoo to show off my fandom of Kinnikuman (he has a KIN birthmark on his... well, backside), but the needles just sounding too painful for my tastes.

Other than that, it's one of those, if someone wants to do something, let them.

Still, you have to admit, Disney made her do all that purity stuff (same thing they did with the Jonases) for THEIR image (see South Park episode The Ring )... but something about this seems to say that she's breaking free of the TV show that would have made her the "Hanna Montana" girl for the rest of her life. But again, I do expect people who only want her to give fakey corporate socially redeeming values that somehow mesh with their own (ei nothing controversial) will have a snit fit about this saying, "AAUGH! Thet there liberal media is makin' kids cartoons say it's okay to be gay!" and burn her CD's or something.

She is a self-professed Christian with a religiously themed movie coming out so I think it's safe to say that not all of her image has been manufactured, but i do get what you mean.

 

[Drtooth]

She is a self-professed Christian with a religiously themed movie coming out so I think it's safe to say that not all of her image has been manufactured, but i do get what you mean.

That's true too... but I for one am sick of the crying and whining about the so called liberal media getting chided for making people accept stuff. The media is only as liberal as it's most fashionable cause, and they still make movies like Rambo or something that's all blasty blasty no consequences. Plus, my personal favorite, waiting until something's safe enough to make a movie against it. Do you think the Hurt Locker would've been made into a movie in 2003? And yet, people criticize them for "brainwashing" people to fit their ideals while their pundits and noise factories do their fair share of "brainwashing" as well. On one hand, some of it is keeping up appearances, on the other, those appearances tick people off for the wrong reasons.

 

[Bannanasketch]

D'Snowth,
I actually mostly agree with your views (minus the political statements). I am still on the fence of supporting leagalizing gay marriage and I don't support homosexuality becuase it's a sin. But I do think if we want to live by Christ's example, we need to show Love to all people. Today, there is so much hate in the world and we seem to think that we can attcak people because they are "sinners." Jesus called these very people, and even religous leaders of that day, hypocrites. I feel like we live in a very similiar age today that Jesus lived in.

You are also absolutely right, that sin is everywhere. "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). Nobody is "holier than thou" because we are all sinners and no sin is greater than another. Therefore, it is not our job to judge others, becuase that is only God's job because he is perfect. For our sin outweighs all of our good deeds, therefore we cannot make it into heaven on our own. None of us.

"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."- Romans 6:23

There's the good news! We cannot make it into heaven on our own but we have somebody who allows us to get into heaven by the perfect gift and sacrifice of Jesus Christ. You see, God loves us so much that he sent his only son, his perfect son, to die a brutal death FOR YOU. It is our job to just accept that gift from him. Honestly, I am not worthy to get into heaven. I sin everyday and I don't know how God can still love me after all I've done. But he does. I don't know about you, but that crazy. That is crazy, unconditional love right there.

D'snowth, you said it well in your last post. There may be a few things I disagree with you on, but that's no big deal. Honestly, I am so glad that God loves me so much that he sent his son to die for me. Therefore, it's not my job to judge others but to spread his good news.

 

[Drtooth]

Addendum to the Miley Cyrus bit...

there haven't been any reports of anyone complaining about her support of gay marriage, BUT she apparently did something SO horrible, vile, and inexcusable they couldn't show on television.

She smoked.