The Wizard of Id on YouTube

GonzoLeaper

Well-Known Member
Joined
Oct 7, 2002
Messages
2,500
Reaction score
225
Woohoo! Thanks for the link. I love Johnny Hart's "The Wizard of Id" and "B.C." comics, so I'm very interested to check this out.:smile:
 

D'Snowth

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 8, 2003
Messages
38,849
Reaction score
12,814
I wasn't aware that an actual test pilot was filmed: I knew there were puppets built for a series for television that was never bought. Even Caroll Spinney wrote about the puppets in his book, when he first arrived at Jim's workshop (the carriage house with the hand-painted sign), and went through the filing cabinets full of puppets, including a bunch of Kermits, a bunch of Rowlfs, and the WOI puppets.
 

minor muppetz

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 19, 2005
Messages
16,072
Reaction score
2,660
I must say, I had previously read that the puppets in The Wizard of Id didn't have a Muppety look (though The Spook puppet does look like he could fit in with the Muppets), so I didn't know what to expect. And just recently I was trying to imagine how the puppets might have looked. They sort of look like store-bought puppets.

The Spook was later used in the Sesame Street Pitch Reel, and something about the puppet looks a bit different to me. I think it's something about the nose... I wonder if maybe they changed the nose for a background appearance.

Aside from The Spook being in the Sesame Street pitch reel, I wonder what the chances would have been of these characters being used in more Henson productions, if it weren't for the fact that they were based on copyrighted characters. I wonder if that's why those puppets don't appear at Henson exhibets. It is good that they were able to include the pilot on Henson's YouTube channel (I wonder if they needed permission from the copyright holder. I don't think I've seen any Wubbulous World of Dr. Seuss clips on Henson's YouTube channel, after all).

It is interesting that this was produced in 1969, when Frank Oz was starting to do voices and Jerry Juhl was starting to end his career as a performer, yet Oz does no voices while Juhl does. I would have expected The Spook to have been an Oz character (it wouldn't surprise me if Oz did the physical puppetry of the character, at least in scenes where he appeared with The Wizard).

As a side note, it's interesting how in the late-1960s, Jim Henson had to let Jerry Nelson go because he didn't have enough work for everybody, giving him the occasional performing opportunity when he could, until 1970. I wonder if Henson considered hiring Nelson for this or Sesame Street. Judging by the pilot it seems the series wouldn't have had many characters (how many characters did the comic strip have at the time?), but I'm surprised Henson didn't try to get Nelson to perform on Sesame Street when the series began (especially after needing to hire somebody to perform Big Bird).
 

Oscarfan

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 2, 2008
Messages
7,528
Reaction score
3,961
They actually do have several clips from the Wubbulous World on their YouTube channel.
 

edwardsinclair

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 18, 2003
Messages
55
Reaction score
19
Wow. I'm surprised that this didn't make the Mupet trading circle sooner. I saw the pilot (or at least most of it) about 20something years ago. I lived in Johnny Hart's (Id creator) hometown. The PBS station made a documentary about his life and included the pilot! For a time it would monthly - even nightly. I had it on tape for a short while, but it was recorded over some years later. I've been trying to get ahold of that special for this clip for years. They actually still air it annually, but with no advertisement ahead of time. Happy to see a high quality direct upload from Henson.

As for the pilot - I always felt it would've been Jim as the king, jerry as the Wizard, and frank as the Spook had it been made a few yrs later. Or possibly Frank as the Wizard with Jim still as Spook.

I love the shout out to Muppet philosophy at the end. *BOOM*
 

ZeppoAndFriends

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 6, 2009
Messages
1,491
Reaction score
375
It's always a treat to see such incredibly rare Muppets bits like that. :big_grin:

I hope the put up the Land of Tinkerdee pilot next. That would make my century! :excited:
 

minor muppetz

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 19, 2005
Messages
16,072
Reaction score
2,660
I hope the put up the Land of Tinkerdee pilot next. That would make my century! :excited:
They have already put up a clip from that pilot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK7NvL_2l3A

I'm not too familiar with the individual Wizard of Id strips, so does anybody know whether the various gags in this are based on speciffic strips? It wouldn't surprise me, since various individual Peanuts and Garfield strips have been adapted into the various Peanuts and Garfield specials, series, and movies over the years.
 

Drtooth

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 16, 2002
Messages
31,717
Reaction score
6,710
It seems very indicative of the strips, but unlike, let's say, Garfield and Friends, The Charlie Brown and Snoopy Show (or any and all of the specials), or basically any other comic strip based media, they barely make a coherent plot out of them in this attempt. It really seems like you know where the strip they took the gags from start and end, and the show rarely moves out of setup, joke, set up and 2 liners. In fact the only thing that screamed Muppet was the fact everyone blew up at the end.

That's not to say i didn't enjoy it, but I just don't think it could have made a series. A series of blackout jokes for a variety show, maybe... but a half hour of connected strip jokes would get tiresome no matter who's in charge. Though, if the show was indeed picked up, I'm wondering if they would have evolved into more complex comedic plot lines. And I also wonder if Jim had a bigger puppet troupe at the time, we would have seen more characters.
 
Top