I think Marty's versions of Snuffy and Telly are the best ones. I've seen interviews on YouTube of Marty and you can tell he's a pretty funny guy. Bob Payne's original Telly was just plain weird.
I read on MuppetWikia that Michael did the puppeteering of Snuffy for the 10th season (1978-79) while Jerry looped in the voice and Michael did the voice for seasons 11 and 12. You'd need a strong back to do Snuffy (I can't imagine how Marty and Bryant have done it for so long).
No disrespect to Brian Muehl (he's a good puppeteer), but I like Pam's version of Grungetta better (maybe it's because she sounds grouchier).
I'm still trying to find early clips of Elmo when Brian or Richard performed him.
Well, here's a couple of non-Kevin Clash Elmo clips:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNUX9LPr4rA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSOu5C55kUA
They might both be Jerry Nelson, but I'm not sure.
I know that there's more to the character, much more than just the voice. There's the movement, the mannerisms and the personality. I'll toss in my two cents and say that Eric really has come a long way. He seems to be better at Bert than Grover, but maybe he's more comfortable with Bert.
I always wondered why Frank didn't say "Here, you perform Cookie, too." Eric's doing all of Frank's other main characters. Why not Cookie?
Also...I know that Matt Vogel is doing his best, but he really needs to work on the Bird. Caroll has a more fluid way with Big Bird's movements and subtleties with expressing emotion. Vogel is almost too energetic with Big Bird. Even in the 80's or even 70's, Big Bird was a character that was more curious about life as opposed to a "bouncy", happy character like say, Elmo or Murray. The Bird's more complex than that.
Matt's gotta work on his voice, too. If Caroll says "that's good enough", then fine, I guess. To me, Matt's Big Bird sounds like he needs Vicks Vapo Rub. He's got a stuffed-up beak.
Steve, I gotta give the guy so much credit. None of us know what it's like to be in that guy's shoes and he works so hard trying to get, as Frank put it "inside the soul of Jim" to perform the characters he does, Kermit, Ernie, whoever.
It's one thing to be a Muppeteer and the original Muppeteer right there, training you on how to perform their characters. Think Yoda training Luke.
It's quite another thing to have the whole boss of the Muppets die, then to be assigned the most famous Muppet of all. Steve had a "Ben Kenobi training Luke" type of experience. He got a lot of Muppeteering experience with his own characters. He also got advice from Jim. But Jim suddenly vanished, sadly far too soon, leaving Steve to do the best he could with the skills he had learned.
Telly has grown on me over the years. I think Martin Robinson does an excellent job with him and I've always enjoyed the Telly/Oscar moments, be they the Sneak Peek Previews, Ask Oscar or other segments.
Telly still worries a lot, I think. He also freaks out, which is a really funny part of his character. Otherwise he'd just be a monster who really likes triangles (yawn). The recent Telly moments I really liked were when he declared himself a mad scientist "I'm a MAD scientist! MAD!" & I also laughed at Telly desperately begging Leela to help him make a huge amount of those Rakhi bracelets. Telly's had some really funny moments recently. I hope he gets to do more with Oscar soon.
Yeah...and why the heck
isn't there more Telly merchandise?
Convincing John