So Now There Are Ten Deadly Sins

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I mean do there really need all these different demoninations (Baptist, Catholic, Methodist, Presbyterian, Protestant, etc) branching out of Christianity itself?

Lol, well that's a long standing question! I think ideally it would be great to be less separate, I think every group has something different to give. It just seems that it's also differences that keep getting in the way. (Didn't I see this on that puppet show for kids, what's the name of that show?)

 

[frogboy4]

The Pope wears Prada shoes and often sits atop a thrown even after a vow of poverty so I have a few problems with the Catholic Church laying down the law. They have every right to preach and believe what they choose. These new deadly sins, while kind of funky are thoughtful. I wouldn't take them to the extremes. I think what the church might be saying here is that in their view people should be better stewards of the planet left in our hands, better caretakers for our bodies in what we put in it and not to tamper genetically (how weird is this that it really could be necessary later) with future generations of people. I mean sloth is a sin, but I don't think the church cares if you sleep in on a Saturday. Gluttony is also a sin, but I don't think the church is going to turn away people who over eat.

Just the thoughts from being raised Catholic for some of my formative years. I choose personal spirituality over organized religion. I will also state, differences aside, the Catholic Church is also one of the largest charitable organizations on the planet. This whole press release today appears to be an action by the church to remain relevant. I agree with them a little.

 

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I think what the church might be saying here is that in their view people should be better stewards of the planet left in our hands, better caretakers for our bodies in what we put in it and not to tamper genetically (how weird is this that it really could be necessary later)

I agree, actually a lot of Christian churches (not just Catholic) are now becoming more concerned about taking care of the planet. Earlier it was considered by some to be not as important as human issues. But now many groups are realizing that human issues won't matter much if the planet is no longer there. Like I said before, I think this is the Church realizing that they should have taken stronger stances on all these issues before.

Just the thoughts from being raised Catholic for some of my formative years. I choose personal spirituality over organized religion. I will also state, differences aside, the Catholic Church is also one of the largest charitable organizations on the planet. This whole press release today appears to be an action by the church to remain relevant. I agree with them a little.

Yeah I know a lot of people who opted for more personal spirituality and that's cool. I think, even if you choose to join a religion, you should have a strong self of personal spirituality. Because again, the religion isn't always correct. And that is very true, the Catholic Church has done much for social justice and charities through the centuries. It's not perfect, it's both good and bad, like anything. I don't always agree with or follow what's said. But it's frustrating that society is still allowed to discriminate against certain groups and not others. (Not that anyone here is, actually this has been very civil so far. Hope I haven't jinxed it, lol).

Basically, I go to Church for God, not for the building.

 

[dwayne1115]

people can play a religoius game, and still not get into heaven. It's a matter of the heart. I'm trying to show you all from the Bible what God says. I think when we try to get our own understanding of these things we (our thinking) can lead us astray. We need to study to show our selfs approved unto God. It really comes down to a personal relaitonship with God seeking his will for your lives

We have to fisrt except the Bible as the true holy perfct word of God. 2Timothy 3 16 says All Scripture is given by the insperation of God, and is PROFETABLE for doctorien, for REPORVE, for CORECTION for INSTRUCTION in rightiousness.
That means that its all true from the very first of it to the end its all true.Read your Bibles people let God show you some truths.

 

[Ilikemuppets]

I go to church to worship God, but It's not my believe that going there is going to save me. It's is also my believe that man is destructive by nature and that Jesus can save us from ourselves if we want him to and we ask him, too. It's not that we shouldn't be concerned or care, but what it the verse where Jesus ask "Who can add a minute to there life by worrying?" God is taking care of everything and he can take care of us, too.I also learned about drugs and pollution in school. I guess there is a difference between treating people as if they have no brain and telling them how you feel about something you believe in. In my experience when I explain to people where I'm coming from and why I feel the way I do, most of the time they will listen. So if somebody were to throw something on the ground, I don't even have to say much. I could just tell them that I think that's wrong if not just because it probably wasn't their property, they will most likely listen and pick it up and put it where it belongs and even so so fas as to apologize and they didn't even have to do that. Most people have a conscious are more decent then you think.

 

[Drtooth]

I'm going to kinda agree with Frogboy on this one. I have problems with organized religions, myself. The Catholic Church I can respect, dispite not being Catholic. I do not agree with quite a bit of what it says (which I won't get into), but I can respect what they're talking about. I'm not even going into Branch religions, since some branches were created so people can do rotten things in the name of God. One branch came out of the Civil War specifically to let them keep holding and mistreating slaves.

I think the problem is people focus on the wrong sins, and ignore the big ones. Sure, honoring God, Jesus, Mohammed, etc. is the most important, but fat lot of good that will do you if you're evil to your fellow man. Remember, the KKK goes to church too, as do religious extremists. Following God doesn't mean you'll get a free pass to heaven. It's not what God tells you to do that's important, it's how you do it.

To me, the 7 Deadly sins aren't even sins, but warnings. It all goes to one of my personal beliefs, that you won't get punnished by going to hades (can't say the real one, and this is the only one that still packs a dark wallop), you get punnished by falling into your own pit. Eating a lot of food will not get you a billion years in the frier, it will cause health problems. Greed makes a person do horrible things, and lose their true self. Envy can seriously cripple and depress a person over time. Even speaking outside of religion, the 7 deadlies are basically a guidline. Something to try to avoid. As I said earlier, we're only human. We fall into these traps all the time. The lesson is to learn from the mistakes, and live your life better with as little of them as possible.

That said, I think the enviornmental responsibility thing (following the "things to watch out for" pattern) is a no brainer to add. I actually can't believe certain factions of a certain branch of religion actually find biblical excuses for people to pollute the planet. Thinking religiously, God gave the earth to all its inhabitants, and therefore we have to share it with the other creatures and future generations. Out of a religious context... do you want to walk down a street full of doritos wrappers, dog excriment, and plastic toy blister packages?

I think people are focusing on cars too much. Carrying around a reusable bag for groceries and peddling a bike to work is only relevant if you don't toss your trash all over the place. We need to move towards vehicles that use as little oil as possible, but so far, the big move over has been sluggish. And it don't mean a thing if big companies toss crap in the water, and shoot tons of smoke into the air.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I sure wish Disney would do something with the Muppets so we can have a few more discussions about Muppets on these forums.

I don't see anything too negative in the thread so far, which I was questioned about, so I think it's okay to let it continue. Everyone is doing a good job of positively debating issues, and that's appreciated.

 

[D'Snowth]

I sure wish Disney would do something with the Muppets so we can have a few more discussions about Muppets on these forums.

Hey Kev, you know how many times Kathy Greenwood-related discussions are had at the Klub Kathy forums? Like 2 out of 10. Been that way since day one. So be lucky this is just a "slump" for us right now around here; besides, there's always Season 39 of Sesame Street to look forward to.

 

[dwayne1115]

I sure wish Disney would do something with the Muppets so we can have a few more discussions about Muppets on these forums.

I don't see anything too negative in the thread so far, which I was questioned about, so I think it's okay to let it continue. Everyone is doing a good job of positively debating issues, and that's appreciated.

yea this one was pretty melow combare to some that we have had as of late.

Anyone want to buy a sin lol im only kidding

 

[Fozzie Bear]

They heard my pleas!

http://forum.muppetcentral.com/showthread.php?t=37072

(BTW, What sin are you selling? I've already got gluttony--I bought one to play with and one to keep mint in box. Now, gimme all those cookies and pies!)