What made you roll your eyes today thread?

Drtooth

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What would it take (or would have taken) to find somewhere in the middle? Pence pulling Trump further right, Bernie pushing Hillary further left, how can we ever come together on anything now?
If there's something no one's willing to admit, it's the fact that the country itself is so far right, the "socialist" Democrats are essentially where the Republicans were under Nixon. You know, Nixon, the Republican who was the bad one because he probably had thugs break into a hotel to steal intel on the Democrats, expanded a war, and was kinda racist. Meanwhile selling weapons to a hostile nation to fund a South American drug war that was never our business gets you so beloved that they want to put you on money. Say what you will about Tricky Dicky, he didn't lie about a country run by a crazy dictator that his father put into power to fight said country they sold weapons to having weapons to justify a war between a country that was never a threat to us. Nixon's the villain of Futurama and Duh-Byah gets to stay home and make ugly paintings of his feet. What Nixon did as far as other Republican presidents are concerned is nickle and dime stuff.

The biggest problem I have with the Democratic party is that they're like comedy writers who are their own self censor. Complicate, overly willing to compromise, selling themselves short because you know they'd rather not have any drama with the network censor than actually step out and shine. The Dems are their own compromise, and therefore instead of being leftish, they're more of the centerist middle man third party than the radical socialist commies the right likes to paint them as. All Bernie's values did was nudge them slightly to the left where they should be, and on issues that actually are screwing us up as a country. I wouldn't be surprised if colleges ran on the same level of corruption that the medical field does. As in, purposely overbilling patients to get money from insurance companies, in turn making the insurance more expensive. Wouldn't be surprised if you just replace "insurance" with "Student loans" and that's the case. The thing that scares me here is that the Republican Party made the 2012 election about "you should bow down to your corporate overlords" and that anything that could help out those who have to work 3 jobs and still can't get off food stamps is some evil slide into communism, yet massive Tax cuts to rich morons and corporate welfare is absolutely different. How come we're so compliant to people who have a lot of money getting our tax money, but when someone has to work 3 shifts at various fast food companies and still needs welfare, we're all "they don't deserve to get a raise in minimum wage, but darned if they should get my hard earned tax money in government entitlements!"
 

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If there's something no one's willing to admit, it's the fact that the country itself is so far right, the "socialist" Democrats are essentially where the Republicans were under Nixon. You know, Nixon, the Republican who was the bad one because he probably had thugs break into a hotel to steal intel on the Democrats, expanded a war, and was kinda racist. Meanwhile selling weapons to a hostile nation to fund a South American drug war that was never our business gets you so beloved that they want to put you on money. Say what you will about Tricky Dicky, he didn't lie about a country run by a crazy dictator that his father put into power to fight said country they sold weapons to having weapons to justify a war between a country that was never a threat to us. Nixon's the villain of Futurama and Duh-Byah gets to stay home and make ugly paintings of his feet. What Nixon did as far as other Republican presidents are concerned is nickle and dime stuff.

The biggest problem I have with the Democratic party is that they're like comedy writers who are their own self censor. Complicate, overly willing to compromise, selling themselves short because you know they'd rather not have any drama with the network censor than actually step out and shine. The Dems are their own compromise, and therefore instead of being leftish, they're more of the centerist middle man third party than the radical socialist commies the right likes to paint them as. All Bernie's values did was nudge them slightly to the left where they should be, and on issues that actually are screwing us up as a country. I wouldn't be surprised if colleges ran on the same level of corruption that the medical field does. As in, purposely overbilling patients to get money from insurance companies, in turn making the insurance more expensive. Wouldn't be surprised if you just replace "insurance" with "Student loans" and that's the case. The thing that scares me here is that the Republican Party made the 2012 election about "you should bow down to your corporate overlords" and that anything that could help out those who have to work 3 jobs and still can't get off food stamps is some evil slide into communism, yet massive Tax cuts to rich morons and corporate welfare is absolutely different. How come we're so compliant to people who have a lot of money getting our tax money, but when someone has to work 3 shifts at various fast food companies and still needs welfare, we're all "they don't deserve to get a raise in minimum wage, but darned if they should get my hard earned tax money in government entitlements!"
What's stopping you from running in 2020? There's at least five people here old enough to vote for you.
 

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I'm with fuzzygobo, I've often said Drtooth should be president.

In all seriousness though, I heard that Ted Williams (the homeless man with the golden voice) was going to run, on the grounds that if another non-politician (in this case, D'ump) could run, why couldn't he? He definitely would have gotten my vote, because he understands what it's like to have nothing.
 

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That's one thing I wish both Trump and Hillary could've felt at some point in their lives. To know what it's like to have nothing.

Trump went bankrupt once or twice (and paid through the nose in alimony), but I wonder how they would ever deal with having to work several jobs flipping burgers or pumping gas.
Or dealing with their house being foreclosed, car getting repo'ed, or how to pay for prescriptions (short of going to Canada).

Both say they are in touch with the needs of common people, but when was the last time they really had to scrounge?
 

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One of the main reasons D'ump will never get my vote. Also, I don't believe he'd ever actually do anything as president, I think he just wants the title for the sake of being known as president. Hillary I don't entirely trust either way.
 

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I'm with fuzzygobo, I've often said Drtooth should be president.
You would never want me as leader.

Trust me.

One of the main reasons D'ump will never get my vote. Also, I don't believe he'd ever actually do anything as president, I think he just wants the title for the sake of being known as president. Hillary I don't entirely trust either way.
I have a big long rant I've been storing up, but I'm saving that for another day.

Suffice to say, I have a large problem with the false equivalency here. Drump's basically running on the concept of just regurgitating old right wing talking points. He offers no solutions that the right haven't already tried and failed. He opened his bid by throwing the illegal immigrant crap back out there. Something that was big in the 80's and 90's, mind you. Remember the South Park episode with "Dey dook arr jurrrsss!!!"? Heck, even recently South Park pointed out that the crap about illegal immigrants was always around. As I've said many times, he's an empty suit taking advantage of far far far far far far far right Tea Party politics and their imaginary outrage at the wrong people.

As for Hillary...she'd at worst be a mediocre president that does things that only the moderates of both sides would want. If you don't want Drumph, you kinda have to suck it up for 4 years. 8 years if the next Republican "reboot" is yet another Fan4stic Four (as in they made it so much worse than the last time to the point you forgot why you hated the previous ones in the first place). Sort of untrustworthy experience vs completely bankrupt morally and fiscally hateful rhetoric with absolutely no substance that takes whatever position possible while contradicting the heck out of the message far more than even the worst politician has done so far.

I'd rather have Duh-Byahh for 8 more years than one year of Drumph.
 
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