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Speculation: Potential Sequel for "The Muppets"

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by bknatchbull, Mar 1, 2012.

  1. CaseytheMuppet

    CaseytheMuppet Well-Known Member

    This time I will try not to watch every single clip and music sample there is, and make it a surprise. It will be EXTREMELY hard, but it's worth a try! ;)
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  2. zoebell

    zoebell Well-Known Member

    maybe they could do a movie within a movie thing - where they're making a film IN the movie, but the story really happens backstage and behind the scenes.

    which of course adds on to the whole thing being a movie in the first place.
  3. MWoO

    MWoO Well-Known Member

    I think a western would be perfect actually. I can see parts for all the muppets. Sherif Kermit, Rolf on paino, piggy in a burlesque stage show (g rated of course), fozzie could be the saloon owner down on his luck, scooter could be the kiss up assistant to the mayor of the town or perhaps deputy to the sherif. Or may e have gonzo and fozzie as deputies and have pops own the saloon. Tons of character opportunities with a western and the muppets can still play themselves similar to GMC.

    I don't even like westerns but I love the idea of a muppet western.
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  4. zoebell

    zoebell Well-Known Member

    i'm not crazy about it, because i think it's a little too close to the adaptations of christmas carol/treasure island, with a whole different setting and time period and everything

    i also think that we're kind of still in the phase of re-introducing them to a new generation, and that for that reason they probably should stay as close to their real selves as possible for the time being. kids were the problem with this one as well, adults loved it but kids were mostly unmoved by the nostalgia

    someone pointed out to me that a movie-within-a-movie is too close to what The Muppet Movie was, but i actually think they could do it, but have the story this time be about them trying to MAKE the movie, and how wrong it turns out. so that the real story is what goes on behind the scenes. that'd be different. and that way we could follow their real selves and all
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  5. DannyRWW

    DannyRWW Well-Known Member

    You know we have been trying to come up with ways to avoid having the humans in the lead, but the one area humans work with the Muppets is as the vilian...so who would make a good villian for the muppets? I like the western idea but I would avoid putting any muppets on the side of the villian (poor Bobo...always the villians foil.. or being hit by the villians foil I suppose).
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  6. Bannanasketch

    Bannanasketch Well-Known Member

    What's all this I hear about a western?
  7. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    1. Aint it Cool News, the #1 movie site that has championed the Muppets every step of their way, is getting their own Muppets show on youtube, starring a Muppety version of Harry Knowles http://www.aintitcool.com/node/54062

    2. Jason Segal went on record today saying that he did what he needed to do. To get the ball rolling. To plant the flag of the Muppets in the modern era. Mission accomplished I say.

    3. But it's time to bring the Muppets BACK to their non glossy, non ADHD/kiddified
    independent film spirit.

    These two amazing deleted scenes from the upcoming blu ray release SHOW what could have been...but what COULD be with the next film.

    These have a completely different, more real feeling to them. And are just really amazing little scenes in my opinion
  8. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    If there was to be yet another "classic retelling/period piece", count me out. I sat through MCC, MTI, Oz. A western? Maybe if its simply a scene of them filming a Western. Muppet films should always be set in the time they are being filmed.
  9. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    I was just astonished seeing some of these deleted scenes. Much more reminiscent of the original Muppet films. And that's what was deleted?

    But it's not the Muppets fault, it's just the state of movies right now.
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  10. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    But to me it shouldn't be an excuse for companies to make typical films...that "well this is where audiences are at now and the way the wind is blowing". My skin crawls when I see trailers for Garfield, Alvin, Smurfs, G-Force(and I love guinea pigs), Cat and Dogs, Hop, or 90% of most cgi kids films. Youd think a company would want to buck the trend and do something different. Like Coraline...sure it didnt make a massive amount, but it was very unique. Disney releases Studio Ghibli films, which are completely different than anything out in the modern period. Disney knows it's mostly adults into the Muppets, so perhaps they should just accept it and target that demographic instead of trying to kiddify things. Pirates is aimed at teens to young adults, so Disney covers different ages.
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  11. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Good movie but I would argue they felt safe with it because Tim Burton's darker works were already popular.

    The main thing for the studios is "are you just coming off a success?" The Muppets weren't at the time. Now they are and now maybe things can be different.

    Sounds like the same problem Labyrinth might have had. Who is the audience?

    Keeping that in mind, we are lucky The Muppets (2011) was as good as it was. Its only questionable joke was thankfully brief, lol.
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  12. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Hmmm...I could totally see a movie with them as some sort of office workers down on their luck (but NOT a parody of The Office). Something like that, where they are in the real world, with their own names and personalities, but not a story matching their 'real lives', would be perfect to me.

    As long as there is a bit of "duck pond" style forth wall breaking to let the audience know that they are playing parts in a movie.

    After the last movie someone said to me, "I didn't realize that Kermit and Piggy were married..." And I tried to explain that they kinda are and kinda arn't depending what movie you watch, but they didn't quite get it. I wouldn't want to see the next movie be something that could be connected to the previous movie as a direct sequel (for example, if they were to make a movie about putting on a show or making a movie.)
  13. zoebell

    zoebell Well-Known Member

    yeah, i'm not for another period piece either. i want it in the modern day, with them as themselves

    i don't see what's wrong with having a movie about them making a movie or show. that doesn't necessarily have to be a direct sequel (although it could)

    that's an interesting point about the piggy/kermit thing. every single person i talked to who saw the movie thought they were married as well. some even figured they got divorced. that was pretty unclear
  14. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    I would take a period piece if it was done well.

    But I'd prefer modern day. Something that we can really connect to.

    I'd love to see them make an Electric Mayhem Mockumentary sometime -- even if its just a tv-special rather than a movie.
  15. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Understandable, lol. For the record, while I am a proud member of the "Kermit and Piggy are married" team, I have no problem with them seeming to be unmarried in a future project. It is just a movie after all, hehe.
  16. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    I'm totally in your team! But what they didn't understand was that there was a loose canon (pun) to the whole thing and that The Muppets were character actors and entertainers...rather than a series of connected movies (Chipmunks or Pirates of the Caribbean)
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  17. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Yay! Somebody's....already gotten married! :) :mad:

    Yeah I saw that from the fans on IMDB. They liked the Muppets but were not necessarily hardcore fans so a lot of them were asking canon questions that no one could really answer, lol.
  18. Walter

    Walter Well-Known Member

    Those scenes do feel very Muppety! It's a shame the jail scene was cut, it reminded me of MTM tone wise, and it also had a funny line too..

    "You've been bailed out by this weird kid" LOL
  19. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    My first thought was MTM as well, instantly.
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  20. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    The Muppets work best juxtaposed to real people and/or the real world. The absurdity is where the funny is. Their reactions and commentaries are priceless. Charles Grodin is the perfect example of good casting to balance the Muppets' craziness. It would be fantastic if they hired him as the villain for the next film even though it isn't very likely.

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