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Another Stupid movie to Overreact to...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Drtooth, Jun 30, 2012.

  1. BobThePizzaBoy

    BobThePizzaBoy Well-Known Member

    My friend and I saw a huge talking billboard for this movie when we saw Brave earlier this week. We honestly couldn't believe this was real.
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  2. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    Ringo did a really good job narrating. He may not have been the best at doing different voices, but it had a nice, quiet, homey sort of feeling. It even still showed up when I watched some of the shorts on youtube a while back.
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  3. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'm glad that I saw Brave at a smaller, local, indie theater. Even though they ONLY had one preview. Wreck it Ralph. And I finally got to see that on the big screen in 3-D like I WANTED to, but didn't when I saw Madagascar.

    Didn't even have the teaser for Monsters University.

    Him and George Carlin. They were wonderful. I never heard any of the Alec Baldwin ones, though. But I HATE the guy they have now. He can't act for beans. And I liked it better when the characters didn't have different voices. It was supposed to sound like that to me... a storyteller telling the story. That's completely missing now.

    Though there is a funny one about The Fat Controller losing his hat that happened recently. At least, funny from what I've seen of it.
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  4. dwmckim

    dwmckim Well-Known Member

    Why wait for the future? It's got one now:

    :grouchy: "GET LOST!"
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  5. muppet maniac

    muppet maniac Well-Known Member

    (looks on in horror while as trailer is playing)










    They can't.....

    (squints, takes a deep breath, and says...)

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  6. HandsomeFrog

    HandsomeFrog Active Member

    Everybody in the room is dumber because of this. May god have mercy on your soul, marketing visionary.
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  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    However, there's something that tells me the panic is all for naught, since there's no one DUMB enough to want to see this thing...


    You knew I was gonna do that, didn't you?
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  8. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    *fumes are coming out of ears, for reasons that no one expects*

    SERIOUSLY, WHAT IS THE BIG BEEF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?

    This is a movie...a kids movie...it does exactly what it's supposed to do...leave it alone!

    It's there...it may not be the best executed movie in the world, but it's there. It will appeal to kids...it sure would've appealed to the kid version of me. And you say that kids in a theater is a bad idea...well, I think we oughta get more kid's movies on the big screen...it gives it an even further interactive element, the fact that there are actually other kids there.

    And for the people criticizing it for making up words for character personalities, criticize the Muppets for using "Muppetational" while you're at it...

    I mean, sheesh! Maybe the next time an R-rated movie comes out the preschoolers should start a mad mob about how stupid it is...
  9. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    You know what?

    I hate when someone says "Shut up! It's a kid's movie/project."

    Just because it's for kids doesn't mean it has to be a low quality toy commercial that makes their parents want to jump off the nearest cliff. Remember, this is a HENSON based board. We do have higher standards of what kid's media should be.

    This is pretty much the most forced attempt at a kid's program/movie/toy franchise I've ever seen. Nothing's organic or quality about it. It's just... ugly and cynical. Hardly the same quality stuff that a good third of this site is devoted to. I hate to say that I am, but I'm a complete savant when it comes to preschool shows. I know where quality and kid likability lies. Heck, I even get Dora the Explora's appeal, even though I've been vocal against it for some time.

    But this just doesn't have any likability on any level. It's dated (the cheap big costumes went out with Barney the Dinosaur), it looks quite scary from a child's perspective, and if you read the article posted, it's a cynical, jaded attempt to make a new Teletubbies type franchise, and I doubt kids will cling onto that.

    Interactive is good for a home audience, not so much for a film. Again, jumping idiot kids who smacked me in the head watching Bolt and were hardly reprimanded by their yuppie parents almost ruined the film for me. A movie theater is a PUBLIC place. You're instilling bad behavior and rude theater etiquette into preschoolers that will wind up disrupting a quality film the next time they take their brats to the cinema.

    And above all, this wasn't an idea founded in "Oh, kids love to jump around and see movies." This idea was founded by someone who saw a movie that has a large African American audience full of African Americans who were perpetuating a stereotype about African Americans. The movie wasn't based on child-like whimsy at all... it was based on racism.

    There are NO shortage of kid's movies out there. Ones released and one that are on home video. Heck, we even have Kidtoons Cinema, where you take your kids to the movies at 10 AM (I find that all together too early). Sure, Ted and Magic Mike did better than Brave did last weekend, that's a testament to the fact that little boys don't want to see movies about girls. I'm also absolutely shocked we don't have another PG rated fart fest that destroys some classic cartoon series out this summer.

    It's not a barren market, is what I'm saying. But kids don't buy tickets. The parents do. And I don't think there's a single parent out there that wants to be stuck their for 60-90 minutes seeing ugly characters dance around with C-list celebrities with their kids running around the theater. That's 10 bucks for mom and dad, at least 6 bucks for the kids... you can buy a crappy DVD at the Wal*Mart dollar bin for that.

    And finally... preschool friendly films are disastrous flops. Barney's film disintegrated at the box office quickly, but he was on the way out at the time. But Elmo? Elmo may have been the hit toy line of the year before EIG, and the show may be Elmo centric now... Elmo's a huge star in his own right. But even HE couldn't get butts into seats, and it's the LOWEST grossing Muppet movie, second lowest Henson film (Buddy's number one). And this is a completely unknown product. It's only going to make budget because the budget was lower than Dawn of the Dead, I assume.
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  10. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    But it works! That's just the thing...it doesn't look scary at all from a child's perspective, I absolutely know for a fact I would've bugged my parents to take me to see this when I was little...it's one thing if it doesn't appeal to kids, but it does. Kids like a colorful cast of characters having fun like that.

    We do have higher standards of kid's programming. It can be and should be a bit better...but I'm saying that if it is what will entertain kids, then what's the problem?\\

    The only way going to a movie itself is going to instill bad behavior is if the movie is actually telling kids "Smack the person in front of you." It would be the parents' fault for not having their kids behave...

    What are we watching, FOX? There is no racism present here...
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I get what you're saying, but that's not the point I'm making.

    You could fart in a sock, film it with seizure inducing color filters, add in cheap Casio Keyboard music, and call it children's entertainment. Children are easily entertained. BUT there's nothing wrong with challenging them and giving them something of quality. This is quantity. This is the cynical 1990's Barney knockoff revisited. Not even the ones they televised. The cheap home video ones they make to fool Grandma into buying a gift that gets buried in a closet.

    Tossing together a crappy product and saying, "it's for kids, they'll like anything," is something children's TV producers that HATE children do. Kids aren't drooling morons, stop treating them as such. Give them the quality they deserve, well written scripts made for well designed characters that kids can happily grow up with.

    Let me put it this way. You ever watch something you loved as a child when your older and you say "GAW! Why did I LIKE this crap!?!" Does that make an impact on you? Then do you watch something else and discover not only is it still great, but you have a better understanding and appreciation of it? I once bought a Teddy Ruxpin DVD at a dollar store and was afraid to watch it for months, fearing that it would be sugar coated nonsense and that would force me to rethink my childhood in a cynical light. I nervously watched it, and became a kid again, overly delighted in the show's solid adventure plot and fun characters. In truth, out of everything I liked as a kid, I only disassociate myself with the crummy girly shows I watched when I was really little and Captain Planet. I can still watch the Smurfs and be thoroughly entertained. That's what quality does.

    Something good will be a part of you forever. That is what all children's TV producers/creators/entertainers/writers should strive for. I mean, how many people dump on today's programming and only want them to rerun Tiny Toons, Invader Zim, and Batman TAS for all eternity? Why does everyone of a certain age hate Elmo, but LOVE Sherlock Hemlock? Why does everyone fly off the handle on these non-stop CGI movies based on old cartoon shows? That's because those shows became a PART of them. They never grew out of them, they never grew to hate them for extended periods of time. That's the power of a quality TV show or movie.

    How many people remember dime store knockoff Mac and Me over E.T.?

    What this guy is doing isn't any of that. He wants to throw another throwaway kiddy toy empire out into an overcrowded marketplace in a lame attempt to make money. This will be quickly forgotten or remembered ironically (Teletubbies was popular ONLY because it was ironic and ONLY because they said one of them was gay... I defy anyone to tell me they actually liked it). There is something wrong with that because it's children's entertainment for all the wrong reasons. And this criticism is coming from someone who didn't hate the Smurf movie as much as he thought he would, and is actually happy it brought interest back into the characters.

    Reread the article. it clearly states that the idea for making the film interactive came out of watching a specific audience of a Tyler Perry movie. it isn't a joke, it's not a gag... it's an ACTUAL QUOTE from the guy who wanted to make the movie. Not even created the characters... heck, the creator of the characters didn't want to make a movie.
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  12. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    I understand what you're saying, and I agree that children's entertainment should be better than this...I'm just saying that there is no reason to moan and groan and overreact to a thing that does serve its purpose.
  13. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'm getting "You have no right to complain because I don't see the point in complaining."

    Yes, why would Henson fans who shudder at the thought that he was branded as a children's entertainer for a high quality show, and hate the fact that his creations are dumped in the same pile as those cheap DTV religious puppet projects by some people who just don't understand get antsy over the lack of quality in the stuff they force kids in front of to shut them up so mommy can have another wine in her special cup?

    Next thing you'll tell me is that Transformers fans have no right in hating Michael Bay for making terrible movies that took the spotlight of the franchise.
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  14. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    I'm not saying that...I'm saying that since this serves exactly what it was supposed to do, why are we complaining about it? If it was tagged as the "Best Children's Movie of All Time," then that's something to complain about. But it's purpose is very obviously to be a fun little interactive kids movie, nothing more.
  15. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Yeah but just because something appeals to kids doesn't mean it should. ;)
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  16. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    My point exactly. It's like feeding the dog leftover food you wouldn't want to eat yourself and saying "What does he care? The dog eats its own feces!"

    Now I could "complain" about this, but we're actually making fun of how freaking awful, mechanical, and dated it looks. I do not see this appealing to kids unless a time warp somehow opens up and shoots this film back to 1992 or something.

    Say what you will about CGI and modern kid's entertainment, but giant Barney style walkaround costumes with their own TV show is quite passe. And that's not such a bad thing.
    Wretchedpiece of FILTH! Ruin the comedic genius of Johnathan Winters, will you?!?!

    But seriously. There IS no kid appeal... at least to the extent of wanting to have Mommy and Daddy pay 30 bucks to see it. The laughability here is that Mr. "I took the credit for Teletubbies" either was denied a show on one of dozens of children's preschool networks or actually thinks that a theatrical movie is the best way to launch the franchise. It's not going to get the audience he thinks it will because:

    A) Mommy and Daddy buy the tickets, and can openly refuse to see something that's annoying to anyone over the age of 5 inclusive.

    B) Like I continuously said, Preschool franchise films FLOP! Even big names like Elmo and Pooh. And I'm very disappointed about the box office Pooh did, but that's what happens when you have all these preschool shows and products with the characters on them... Pooh's forever branded as a baby franchise.

    But I'm going to go slightly off topic for this. Like I said, there is NO shortage of preschool media. We have at least 3 24 hour a day preschool channels. We don't even have a 24 hour a day cartoon channel anymore. There is a LOT of preschool media out there. Yet, it seems there is less programming for kids 6-12, and Tween programming is still thriving.

    Which brings me to this. How come we have all this molly coddling when kids are 1-5 years old, and then we rush them out of their 6-12's to become teenagers? I'm glad we've seen a resurgence in super Hero cartoon shows and some other comedy shows that appeal to kids that young... but it seems the only money goes to kids under 5.
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  17. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member


    If we ever would meet in person, I'll just make sure I'm wearing my Oogieloves T-shirt... :p
  18. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Yeah not really something I'd personally brag about, lol.
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  19. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    On the plus side, I'm sure it will be very cheap to procure one. Who'd want it?

    I'm guessing that, in a year's time, you won't be able to go to a war torn impoverished country without finding everyone clad in Oogula merchandise. Sure beats Super Bowl losing teams.

    Actually... no. I'd think they rather Super Bowl losing teams. More dignity that way, you know. :sigh:

    Yeah... I don't know if it's a British cultural thing. I've seen some dreadful stuff come out of there, but also those cute little stop motion cartoons with alliterative titles... you know... Postman Pat, Bob the Builder, Fireman Sam (not alliterative, but sort of rhymes). Those are high quality (until Hit ruined them with CGI, that is).

    Still, I just don't understand what Teletubbies was for. I mean, it's clearly geared for kids too young to have memory imprinting yet, so why go after the same demographic that's so easily entertained, they just need keys jingled in front of them, and their busy all day? It was only popular because of the accusations one of them was gay for one thing, and it was also popular with drug users (no kidding). So basically, it was popular ironically. And Boohbah. That was even worse. Glad that one never took off.

    Actually, you know what. This Oogieboogie thing may just be worth an ironic, so bad it's good look.

    Watches trailer.




    it's just terrible.
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  20. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Banana's in pajamas anyone? Lol!

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