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When Muppet Parents Have To Go Kill People

beaker

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Well, looks like Elmo's dad has to go kill some innocent Arabs for the government.

Boy, I knew the fundamentalist conservatives and the RAND corporations(a defense/CIA company Sesame works with now) had really gotten to Sesame Street with threats of getting rid of PBS. First they make a big stink about Kami(the muppet with AIDS), force the first lady on, and hey look at this...
http://muppetnewsflash.blogspot.com/

a new Sesame series called "When Parents Are Deployed", AKA when
parents have to go kill people for the elites and corporations in Washington DC.
See it's bad enough the government, due to having gotten 3000 American soldiers killed in the last few years, now has to target the teen crowd with pro war propaganda commercials, movies, tv shows and video games to con em into joining.(along with the dehumanization of Arabs/Mulims with the media) Now Sesame has become a pawn in all this.

There will be more than 700,000 kids separated from their mother or father this holiday season due to military deployment. The special will show the effects of the deployment of Muppet Elmo's father while showing interviews with military families and others.

I wonder if Sesame will have these kind of specials in their middle eastern versions? You know, "When Papa has to go become a suicide martyr?"

The newly produced special, "When Parents Are Deployed", will feature a documentary-style look at the issues of parent deployment, while also including the classic fun and sincerity from the Sesame Street Muppets as they address the topic. Many local PBS stations are planning to repeat the special after the initial premiere so be sure to check local listings for further airings.

But, does it address the issues of when daddy comes home with a missing
ear and severe PTSD trauma, having seen his buddies blown up, accidentally killing innocents and being forced to round up families in the middle of the night? Or, "Why did daddy come home in a flag draped coffin"?

How about "Why did cousin Bobby get kicked out for being gay?"

No, I guess it won't address that.

It's really sad: The whole point of The World According To Sesame Street, yet here they make a special glorifying the immoral "war of terror" exploits of the United States against the world.

http://www.sesameworkshop.com/tlc/
(notice it has bilingual pamplets? The sad thing is, if youre not a full naturalized citizen, even if you fight for America, you wont get a proper burial/college money or any perks...how messed up is that?)

Sesame Street and Jim Henson's vision is spose to be one of the most last innocent beacons, and here...most they revel in the agrressive imperialistic
exploits of the American government, whose actions of sanctions and "shock and awe" have resulted in more civilian deaths than any government today next to Sudan and China.

I feel SORRY for the kids who are taught that killing people because they have a different religion and skin tone is "ok". I respect the troops, but
both they and the "terrorists" they fight are nothing more than chess pawns for the same corporations and elites behind globalization, killing eachother and dying not for "democracy" or "beliefs", but to further territorial expansion and
corporate interests.

I'm sorry, call me unAmerican, but I find NOTHING in the spirit of Jim Henson or Cooney in parents going out to kill people and support baseless aggressions...ESPECIALLY NOW that they have kids. Their kids deserve better than a parent whose going to be all messed up from seeing that horror/having to take part in horror.
 

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I have no idea what you just said, but let me guess... you're upset about something? (Sorry but that was one LONG post there!)
 

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Uh Corey... Are you talking about the new DVD release titled Talk, Listen, Connect?

Not sure what conclusions to draw from this... But I did read through the whole post and there's something of truth in one of the sentiments.
"The Muppets and Jim Henson are one of the most last beacons of goodness."
Yeah... That's why it saddens and upsets me a little that we've gotten almost squadeush from the Disney deal from back in 2004.

At least Sesame's still going on strong and there'll be a FR movie for all to enjoy in a couple of years.
 

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I though Kami (Takalani Sesame) had HIV. She has AIDS?
 

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Let's hope it doesn't turn into propaganda, because I somehow can't see Sesame Workshop letting that happen, considering the stuff they do in contries all around the world.
 

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jacobsnchz said:
I though Kami (Takalani Sesame) had HIV. She has AIDS?
Well, she was HIV-positive which leads to AIDS, so maybe that's what has happened to her?
 

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I don't mind the show saying that sometimes it's necessary to defend your loved ones when another group wants to hurt them. It's incredibly unfortunate and horrible, but sometimes necessary.

Though, I hope they don't imply the Iraq war is the way to do. Because it was a mistake; there were other places the U.S. should have gone to defend against terrorists. But as I understand it, they don't say where exactly Elmo's Dad is going.
 

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beaker said:
I'm sorry, call me unAmerican, but I find NOTHING in the spirit of Jim Henson or Cooney in parents going out to kill people and support baseless aggressions...ESPECIALLY NOW that they have kids. Their kids deserve better than a parent whose going to be all messed up from seeing that horror/having to take part in horror.
I'd call you PERFECCTLY American for that. I mean, after all George Washington himself didn't want to get involved in any of this type of thing, meddling with other governments.

This is sad, but HOPEFULLY they can make this more about comforting and not any of that "They're brave men protecting us overseas" stuff, since that's a half truth.

I really feel sorry for anyone who was snookered into believing this was part of the war against Al Queda or whatever, espeically since that was proven dead wrong.

Problem is, this is the EXACT type of thing we did in the 80's that got us into massive trouble. I mean, after all, we actually helped Saddam into Power, and a war against Russia (both of their faults) lead to Civil War in Afganistan, leading the Taliban into power. I bet when we were fighting there, they used a lot of weopons on us WE gave them.
 

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heralde said:
I don't mind the show saying that sometimes it's necessary to defend your loved ones when another group wants to hurt them. It's incredibly unfortunate and horrible, but sometimes necessary.

Though, I hope they don't imply the Iraq war is the way to do. Because it was a mistake; there were other places the U.S. should have gone to defend against terrorists. But as I understand it, they don't say where exactly Elmo's Dad is going.
The whole thing is a sham. It's never neccesary to go to war, least post World War 2. Modern wars are nothing but the young killing and spilling blood for the corporate elite.

I think it is highly disgusting, just like the passing of racism and homophobia to children, to say to kids its ok to go to other countries and kill people.

The whole war on terror is bogus, we have no business overseas. And it's wrong for Sesame Workshop to try and make it all innocent. Trust me, Afghanistan and Iraq are in total chaos since the US illegally went over there.
I'm all for people being free, but you don't free people by killing everyone and dropping bombs.

I don't believe "terrorists" are out to get us, I don't believe we need to give up our rights to be safe, and I certainly do not think people should be so gung ho for war.

The millitary should be in place to help America(like say, hurricanes) and
to be used when its absolutely neccesary, as well as help with humanitarian missions. There's nothing to be proud about in Afghanistan or Iraq.

See I know what's going on. The Republicans are threatening to cut off funding for PBS, so Sesame is feeling the pressure to have this sort of propaganda. My gosh, Sesame Streeet just had an ANTI WAR documentary called World According To Sesame Street, and yet here they are...saying
that its ok for moms and dads to go kill people. If a country invaded the US and we fought back, I'd hope we werent called terrorists.

This "special" is about as un Sesame like as I can imagine.

Drtooth said:
I really feel sorry for anyone who was snookered into believing this was part of the war against Al Queda or whatever, espeically since that was proven dead wrong.

Problem is, this is the EXACT type of thing we did in the 80's that got us into massive trouble. I mean, after all, we actually helped Saddam into Power, and a war against Russia (both of their faults) lead to Civil War in Afganistan, leading the Taliban into power. I bet when we were fighting there, they used a lot of weopons on us WE gave them.
Even if it was "al Qaeda", what is that? Some guys in a cave funded by the CIA? It's all an Orwellian sham. The only losers are the innocent people.

What happens when the US invades Iran on bogus lies, are we all going to stand and give blind thanks? Are we going to have more Sesame specials...Elmo saying "Daddy, why do you have to go kill those people because Bush said so?"
 

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Personally, I think that it's easy to blame Sesame Street for doing this, but you gotta understand that there's a war going on. People who have kids are being deployed out there, and this is probably a good thing to get kids to understand what is going on. Kids don't understand why their moms or dads are going over there, heck some people here don't understand it. But people are going over there to kill what others believe are the "terrorist threat". It has nothing to do with us killing them because of their color or religion, because we have enough people here that are of different religions and races that it shouldn't matter. But I personally don't think that it's propoganda, I think that it is to make kids who have parents in the Army understand that their parents are heroes. I know not many people realize that because of the war, but they are. We gotta make sure that this generation is not another Vietnam where soldiers are getting cursed out and spat upon when they get home. This is their parents job, they gotta understand that this is why they can't come home at 5 everynight like other parents. They shouldn't have to do what others are doing and spit on their parents by saying the popular thing and telling the parent that their job isn't important and that they are just over their killing people. The soldiers need our support more than ever, and this is giving it to them by telling the kids that the personnel of our armed services need their respect. Do you realize that not many people showed up to a Veterans Day parade? That's a slap in the face to the people who served in the military. Oh well, that's just my opinion.

Daniel
 
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