Oh Great... More Shootings...

D'Snowth

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Well, I guess these people got tired of targeting schools and churches, now they're going around and shooting people in the hospital.

It's getting so you can't step outside without wearing a bullet-proof vest in this town. :frown:
 

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Where was this?
I sort of see the whole perspective of a school shooting, a school being a place where the perpetrator has been abused and wants revenge; but a hospital is just slack. Why on Earth would someone do that.
 

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Where was this?
In my hometown... here in Knoxville... I swear to you guys, this town has gotten SO DANGEROUS in recent years. I can see about the schools, but I don't understand the motive behind someone going into a church and shooting people, let alone this hospital incident this past week.

Then one of our grocery stores has become a hotspot for knocking old ladies down and swiping their purses; and last fall, there was a BIG case that shook the whole town where a gang of four thugs (three guys and one girl) kidnapped a high school couple, raped both of them, killed them, then disposed of their bodies. Then it seems like once a month, there's another teacher/student sex scandal on the local news. Last November, some guy got shot and killed at the old apartment complex we used to live at.

I really don't know what to think... makes me wonder what'll happen next, who it'll happen to, when it'll happen, or if I know anyone involved... or if I get involved...
 

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I'm sure there would be a lot less shootings and violent crime in general if all these gun-free zones-- where they usually occur-- were abolished. We need more guns in the hands of good, responsible people, and none in the hands of senseless killers. As Dale Gribble once said, "Guns don't kill people; the government does.".
 

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^ All I can say is... amen, mr3urious.

School shootings are... *slightly* more understandable (though I reckon people should be more realistic and just deal with their problems in a less... erm, violent way... says the pacifist), but hospitals? That's barmy. And so... SO tragic. The world is a scary place, but hospitals, that's just so wrong.

People need hobbies, that's all I need to say. I know what sounds a bit basic, but it makes SUCH a difference.

Here where I live there hasn't really been *too* many shootings, it seems that people are more partial to stabbing. It's actually considered a common thing for people my age and *younger* (and older, 'coarse) to carry a knife: "stab or be stabbed" =/
 

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I'm sure there would be a lot less shootings and violent crime in general if all these gun-free zones-- where they usually occur-- were abolished. We need more guns in the hands of good, responsible people, and none in the hands of senseless killers. As Dale Gribble once said, "Guns don't kill people; the government does.".
And the oximoronic thing is that in my town (or I think the entire state as well, I'm not sure), it's illegal to carry a gun with you without a permit... there's even been a BIG legal battle recently on bending the rule for, of all places, the park - some are saying since parks are big targets for hoodlums, that carrying guns would be beneficial for self defense, HOWEVER, there's the other side of the argument who talk about perhaps a spat between two or more people may get out of hand, and whip out their guns and start opening fire at anyone.
 

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Here where I live there hasn't really been *too* many shootings, it seems that people are more partial to stabbing. It's actually considered a common thing for people my age and *younger* (and older, 'coarse) to carry a knife: "stab or be stabbed" =/
Yeah sorry but it seems down your way there are a lot more pyscho postal stabbing frenzies that further up the coast.
Besides, I don't need a knife, I have a crowbar! and a hockey stick! and other blunt objects lying about if someone tried to eat me.
 

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Yeah sorry but it seems down your way there are a lot more pyscho postal stabbing frenzies that further up the coast.
Besides, I don't need a knife, I have a crowbar! and a hockey stick! and other blunt objects lying about if someone tried to eat me.
Crowbar, lol, I must say, I do believe that it's a good idea to have one under the bed, just in case anyone breaks in. I mean, it's self-defence, if somebody hasn't got anything better to do than break into someone's house and cause troubled it's unlikey that their gonna gain sympathy from me, they derverve what's coming. I have... errr... really, really impractical and ridiculously long nails to claw peoples' eyes out...? xP I don't know.

Yeah, the whole stabbing situation here... it's getting... REALLY bad. I live in the burbs, but I consider the city area to be in my backyard pretty much. It's *scary*, because the city is shocking, but even in my fairly quiet area stabbing has become a pretty common thing. *Sigh*... NOT good. :frown: Our city is FULL of maniacs. -_-
 

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Crowbar, lol, I must say, I do believe that it's a good idea to have one under the bed, just in case anyone breaks in. I mean, it's self-defence, if somebody hasn't got anything better to do than break into someone's house and cause troubled it's unlikey that their gonna gain sympathy from me, they derverve what's coming. I have... errr... really, really impractical and ridiculously long nails to claw peoples' eyes out...? xP I don't know.

Yeah, the whole stabbing situation here... it's getting... REALLY bad. I live in the burbs, but I consider the city area to be in my backyard pretty much. It's *scary*, because the city is shocking, but even in my fairly quiet area stabbing has become a pretty common thing. *Sigh*... NOT good. :frown: Our city is FULL of maniacs. -_-
Hey at least you didn't find a rusty machete in a cardboard box out for council cleanup. Now THAT was scary.
 

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School shootings are... *slightly* more understandable (though I reckon people should be more realistic and just deal with their problems in a less... erm, violent way... says the pacifist), but hospitals? That's barmy. And so... SO tragic. The world is a scary place, but hospitals, that's just so wrong.
School shootings in a sense bother me for one major reason. We look at all the WRONG reasons for why it happens... the media and movies mostly... but we never ever say, "These kids were bullied mercilessly." As someone who was, and was in school when this happened (and who absolutely loathes how people take to these events ironically with "I Survived School Shooting" T-Shirts and cheap internet video game hacks celebrating the killers, again, ironically) and just turned the other cheek so many times I ran out of cheeks, I can see why people would go so far over the edge. But I was raised to say that killing is indeed the worst of all sins, no exceptions.

The REAL thing that gets me is that NOW, well after the most famous shooting of all they bother with anti-bullying laws because some cute girl killed herself. Face Palm, bang head on table, smack forehead, saying "YOU GOTTA BE KIDDIN' ME!" If she was some pudgey, dorky girl who killed herself or worse, others, no one would bother. It's like how we only care about missing kids that are cute and have curly blond hair. If some not white kid gets kidnapped or killed or goes down the wrong trail in the woods it's "Oh! Some kid may be dead or something." but cute little Suzy Smith with curley hair and dimples wanders off on a field trip and it's a national tragedy.

When it comes to cases like this NO ONE ever manages to say, "wow! We really should make sure this guy gets help, or is put out of harms way in extreme cases," some national tragedy happens and we have a million Monday Morning quarterbacks spend three hours trying to decipher everything down to what they ate for breakfast for months after... and then we ignore ANY warning signs and any history lesson we could have learned until it happens again.

Bottom line... These people have problems! If someone is bullied to the edge of thinking vicious thoughts... HEY! Stop the bullying and council BOTH sides. It's one thing to have mental problems when someone makes your life miserable, but it's totally another to be so mentally and morally deprived enough to be sadistic enough to turn an innocent person into that. The bullies kids meet in real life aren't the cuddly "we actually have something to hide" types we see in Binky Barnes, Gian from Doraemon, or Nelson from the Simpsons... they're nasty little finks. And I think councilors and psychologists need to talk to BOTH the bully and the victims.
 
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