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Paging Dr. MuppetDude.
Paging Dr. MuppetDude.
Your services are needed in the "Anything Muppets Depot".

That is all.
 

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Sorry, Count; I've been very busy, with college work, trading, etc.

I'll help you whenever I can.

BTW, who do you include in your list? I've noticed that humans, and even stuffed toys, are included.

P.S.: I believe that Bean Bunny was originated from his TV special, not JHH, so maybe TOTBP should be a "TMS TV Special".
 

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Sokay pal, heck I know about that draining college life myself.

So long as the character appeared in the Muppet Universe, then it gets counted, so long as it can be counted as part of the Muppet Universe.
Lemme explain. C-3PO and R2-D2 appeared on a few episodes of SS, so you'd think that would entitle them to be part of the Muppet Universe based on their appearances alone. But remember, that they belong to a character-created universe of their own, the Star Wars universe.
Now, as to celebrity guest stars, they're just that. Unless, some of them actually get casted for a specific part like what happened with Natalie Portman on SS Season 35.
The other point you bring is about TOTBP and JHH. From what I've learned here on the boards, TOTBP and TCT were both made to serve as kind of holiday-based specials to air as part of JHH. These wouldn't be episodes of JHH, but a series of specials with one for each holiday/month of the year associated with JHH. But of course, only the two were made and the idea was left at that. So, I think it's OK to have TOTBP as a JHH TV Movie. So then why wouldn't I count TCT as JHH also? Well, cause you've got the appearance of Kermit in TCT, which loosely connects it along with EO to TMS roots.
Hope this helps settle some of the confusion, hope to hear from you in the AM Depot, and have a good weekend.
 

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:wink: I got it. Thanks for the clarification.

But I'm afraid that the "Anything Muppets" in your list are a bit too far. To me it's okay if they've got names, or a certain gimmick (like the "Beard-Losing Singers" and the Alphabet Miners), but Muppets from "Goin' For a Ride" and "Let's Go Driving" are a bit more generic than the others. It's sort of like adding a "Muppets Waiting for a Bus" to a list. Maybe you can help me clear this up.
 

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Simple answer? Well, I'll try.
1 Yes, there should be an entry for the "Anything Muppets". But I felt that such a blanket entry would be too vague and far too all-encompassing.
2 Then, BlueAM pipes up and suggests to list the AM characters by means of a general shortening of their individual descriptions. The problem with that, I felt, was that the character's name would then confuse who it was with what or how it looks like.
3 So then, BlueAM started gathering descripts for AM characters with help from people here on the boards and we hit upon an acceptable solution. The best way to add these background unnamed characters was to associate them with the sketch or song/video they appeared in, so that whoever reads the AM character's name will know where it came from and where to look for said character.
4 Since I liked this option, I've adopted and thus try to eliminate as many background unnamed characters as possible from that blanket "Anything Muppets" entry. Not sure if we'll be able to completely eliminate it, but at least we can reduce it as much as possible by getting all those background characters classified through the sketches or songs they showed up in.
Hope this helps explain things a bit better, and hope to hear from you in the AM Depot thread soon.
 

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I see. :smile: Thanks for clearing it up, and I'll be helping you soon.
 
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