Could this be Charlie?

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Okay... Questions...
Xerus, what green monster do you mean
Lamango2, the green-nosed orange monster you say is Charlie, what clip/source are you refering to?

BTW: We heard Charlie's voice in the Russian restaurant sketch from a couple years ago.
 

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Honestly, I alwaysd thought of Charlie as being an Anything Muppet humanoid, not a monster (though I guess a monster would be more likely to tolerate Grover's mistakes and customer complaints).

I think the orange monster mentioned is the manager seen in the "service bell" sketch, but he's named Andre. And in that sketch the set looks different (more fancier than the usual Charlie's Resturaunt set... Not sure how to describe it). And at the beginning of that sketch Mr. Johnson comments that the place had changed since his last visit... But I don't know if it's specifically referred to as Charlie's Resturaunt in that sketch (I guess they didn't want to actually show Charlie and chose to mention the manager's name to avoid "confusion").

The "full and empty" sketch is from the second season (Cookie Monster looks the way he did in the first two seasons), and I think the "Waiter Grover" series began in season three (Sesame Street Unpaved refers to the "alphabet soup" sketch as the first of them, and the third season premiere, featuring the alphabet soup sketch, is the earliest-known appearance of any waiter Grover sketches). The name was probably arandom name, before they decided to mention "Charlie" of the restuarant.

Another thing I wonder: When was that restaurant first referred to as "Charlie's Restaurant"? If not for the title would we have thoguht of Charlie as the owner, as opposed to just a cook or other restaurant employee? Resturants have other cooks besides owners, after all.
 

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I'd love to know who wrote the following about Charlie (& Mr. Johnson) in Muppet Wiki:
Charlie is the owner and chef at Charlie's Restaurant in the Grover the Waiter sketches on Sesame Street. Surprisingly, frequent patron Mr. Johnson has yet to file a civil suit against either Charlie or Grover, and masochistically returns to Charlie's on a regular basis.

That's funny!:big_grin::smile:
 

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I'd love to know who wrote the following about Charlie (& Mr. Johnson) in Muppet Wiki:
Charlie is the owner and chef at Charlie's Restaurant in the Grover the Waiter sketches on Sesame Street. Surprisingly, frequent patron Mr. Johnson has yet to file a civil suit against either Charlie or Grover, and masochistically returns to Charlie's on a regular basis.

That's funny!:big_grin::smile:
You can go to Muppet Wiki and check the history and click on revisions until you find the first one with it written. Or find which one is the last without it written and check history to see who wrote it in the next edit (unless an ip number is listed instead).
 

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Okay... Questions...
Xerus, what green monster do you mean
Lamango2, the green-nosed orange monster you say is Charlie, what clip/source are you refering to?

BTW: We heard Charlie's voice in the Russian restaurant sketch from a couple years ago.
The green Charlie monster in that full and empty skit was a light green monster with a green furry vest, green shaggy hair on top, had a round pink nose, and sharp teeth.
 

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Another thing I wonder: When was that restaurant first referred to as "Charlie's Restaurant"? If not for the title would we have thoguht of Charlie as the owner, as opposed to just a cook or other restaurant employee? Resturants have other cooks besides owners, after all.
I think it was when Grover worked at O'Brien's Fast Food. Mr. Johnson saw Grover and said he was that waiter from Charlie's Restaurant.
 

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Honestly, I alwaysd thought of Charlie as being an Anything Muppet humanoid, not a monster (though I guess a monster would be more likely to tolerate Grover's mistakes and customer complaints).

I think the orange monster mentioned is the manager seen in the "service bell" sketch, but he's named Andre. And in that sketch the set looks different (more fancier than the usual Charlie's Resturaunt set... Not sure how to describe it). And at the beginning of that sketch Mr. Johnson comments that the place had changed since his last visit... But I don't know if it's specifically referred to as Charlie's Resturaunt in that sketch (I guess they didn't want to actually show Charlie and chose to mention the manager's name to avoid "confusion").

The "full and empty" sketch is from the second season (Cookie Monster looks the way he did in the first two seasons), and I think the "Waiter Grover" series began in season three (Sesame Street Unpaved refers to the "alphabet soup" sketch as the first of them, and the third season premiere, featuring the alphabet soup sketch, is the earliest-known appearance of any waiter Grover sketches). The name was probably arandom name, before they decided to mention "Charlie" of the restuarant.

Another thing I wonder: When was that restaurant first referred to as "Charlie's Restaurant"? If not for the title would we have thoguht of Charlie as the owner, as opposed to just a cook or other restaurant employee? Resturants have other cooks besides owners, after all.
BTW, The announcer who alerted passengers that Flight 123 to South America is not Charlie ether. He is an airport announcer voiced by Marty P. Robinson.
 
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