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Follow through, that's all we need :). I have been disappointed by news flashes before :cry:

I love knowing things, because then I get to twist them, in a good way, just right to make a story in my head that fits the characters even better (IMHO) than how it was written in the movie...My imagination loves to be fed 'official' details :excited:

At this point maybe I will have to someday :sympathy:

They are actually hard to find O.o Most of all one that writes them as eight year olds...

Well, I was just saying that not everyone sees the same things..maybe classic doesn't exactly mean the same thing to everyone even if they watched them and are fans, we're all different :). Anyway, it was mostly when you said "If the Muppets can't entertain a fan there then they never could."...

No, no, I meant that they would have to be on the inside with Disney to make any true say in the muppets..that's all:sympathy:

It's okay :). I mean most of my best friends are boys:o...I've just been seeing too many chipmunks that part of the romance novel fan things lately:coy:

Yes, like him!:excited: And I just can't take 'they don't make writers like that anymore' for an answer, because I know in my heart of hearts they do :excited:

Even with character growth I just can't see them becoming the R and up rated characters most fans write them as..as if nothing these matters but their hormones and characterization goes out the window:sympathy:. That is my number one pet peeve in fanfic --

Some people has always hated the muppets, but that's never stopped them before:coy:. Besides, not liking everything about them is not going to drag everything about them down IMHO..unless the fan is very mad, very rich, and very in touch with Disney -.-

To each their own I guess but they just seem like OCs with the chipmunk names to me :P. The same as when I found an adult comic on DA with Simon and Jeanette..it just didn't seem like them :\.

Then all we need is love and it will be okay:excited:!

I don't think jokes about yardsticks are really at that level, most of all with the chipmunks:p...To me the two things just don't go together...

Maybe..but many of the muppet thingies I remember were after Mr. Henson died..so it's not exactly him (though I miss him)..I think it is the writers I miss:sympathy:...

It must be a boy thing, because I don't think it's funny:sympathy:...I like thinking of them as eight year olds just fine, thank you :p

Argh, IAVMMCM was the one that scarred me inside:cry:. MWOO at least I could just forget about, but IAVMMCM took out my heart and stomped on it on a deeper level..I can't even say why... I'm optimistic about new things, I just don't think the new things we seen so far are just right...

Now, now, that is taking it a bit far..if someone doesn't love those it doesn't mean they never loved, don't love, or won't love the muppets:). Let us not throw out the chicken with the bathwater:coy: I like them fine, but I do feel they are missing a certain something in their okay-ness ^.^...

I only saw it on video not at the movies and well..with movies I've always had a soft spot for origin movies. I can forgive just about anything as long as I feel the story shows something new about the characters past and adds to them in some way:). I think this is because I have a writing mind...

I agree, and the same thing goes for fraggles (since they are, at heart, muppets to :excited:)

I dunno, I don't think that having more love for the classics than every new thing that comes along really makes one any less of a fan..I don't think being a true fan really means we have to accept every change that's thrown at us just because 'that's the way it is':o. For example, if, say, the...