Anyone into 90s toons and classic 40s cartoons?

[mupcollector1]

These are the kinds of cartoons I love the most. Me and my best friend are huge DVD collectors and we're trying to get a bunch of these if not on DVD, get them through tape trades.

I'm starting to get back into Tiny Toons and Animatiacs, I realize as an adult just how funny they really were when I didn't get any of the jokes as a kid.

I've always been a huge 90s Nickelodeon / Cartoon Network fan. Best time to be a kid growing up in the 90s. I feel so sorry for todays generation of kids growing up with such God-Alwful shows now a days. I mean okay, Spongebob used to be good but now it's really toned down sort of an embarrassing to me now a days. lol

I've been a HUGE Ren & Stimpy fan for many years but now I just like the classic Ren & Stimpy Show, I didn't really like adult party cartoon on Spike TV that much. Ren Seeks Help was a classic, Firedogs 2 with Ralph Bakshi was good but it had it's weak points, the rest I thought was out of character and had too much sex unlike the original which had a more psychodrama element to it.

South Park and Beavis & Butt-head I grew up with, still a big fan too this day. Though I think South Park is wearing out a little bit slowly, I still need to check out the Season 16 episodes which I missed in their first run.

My best friend got me into Batman the Animated Series, I just watch it for Harley Quinn. I love her, she's so adorably funny and wacky. A gem character that you don't really see much of. And as a Myers Briggs / Jung nerd as I am, I believe she's ENFP.

And finally classic 40 Cartoons, me and my best friend love the classic Bugs Bunny and Woody Woodpecker cartoons. As well as Tex Avery, we watch them UNCUT and UNCENSORED just the way we like them with all those dark death jokes and racist sexist gags of the 40s. People of course in this modern society say how horrable they are, and of course it's bad in reality but when it's in cartoon forum where it's just slapsticky and not really ment in terms of political prejudice, we just love them and joke about it when making each other laugh. We often joke uncensored like that because we still find them funny. I think the only places you can do that in animation now is South Park and Spike and Mike's Sick and Twisted Festival of Animation (Love them too, I summit stuff to them all the time lol)

 

[D'Snowth]

Considering that I grew up during the 90s, a lot of cartoons that are near and dear to me are the ones that put channels like Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network on the map. Dexter's Laboratory, Johnny Bravo, Cow and Chicken, Ed, Edd n Eddy, Courage the Cowardly Dog, Rocko's Modern Life, Hey Arnold!, CatDog, Recess, etc, these are all my childhood.

 

[mupcollector1]

Same here. Especially The Eds, One of my top ten favorite shows EVER. I remember back in middle school and high school, I used to annoy the heck out of people with my Eds imitations quoting stuff from my favorite episodes. lol I even got kicked out of a pottery sculpting place that I went after school to practice my clay sculpting skills because it drove everyone nuts. I think I got someone's email one and I would send all these emails to everyone of some funny video clip or whatnot and finally the person sends a nasty email telling me not to email her again. lol I remember she said she grew up watching Fraggle Rock too. lol
But yeah, I was energetic and immature but Eds helped boost my silly energy alright. lol I've got seasons 1 & 2 on dvd. Still waiting for the rest though. I've got the movie (aka final episode) in my iTunes library. There's a video clip of the creator Danny Autonucci being interviewed by Zolo TV or something like that. It contains some strong language but it's really hilarious, very cool guy, he loves animation old school style which is cool God knows where he is now, I know that aka Cartoon Inc. shut their doors back in the late 2000s after Eds ended. The interview was filmed during the final season of Eds and he was mentioning how he wanted to go back to do more uncensored animation like he did in the past.

Have you seen his other work like Brothers Grunt or Lupo the Butcher?

I've got all the Brothers Grunt episodes from a tape trade. Patrick Caird who did the music for the Eds, did the jazzy music for this show as well as him and Danny animating the opening for MTV's Cartoon Sushi (Loved that show ). I've chatted with Patrick years ago on email and he sent me some 30 second clips of Ed Edd N Eddy music, I wish I saved it on a CD or CD-rom. I also meet the sheet animation director at a casino one time. I forgot his name. Cool British guy, he did the animaton for the corny yet hilarious Beatles Saturday Morning Cartoon of the 60s and Yellow Suberine. He's in the credits as sheet director on Eds season 4. Cambell I think his last name was.

I've chatted with Eddy Dezon once on email (aka Mandark from Dexter), he told me that Dexter was the funniest job he ever had.

So much fun chatting with these celebrities. lol

I don't think I've ever sat down to watch a full episode of Resess. But I do love Dave the Barberian. I'm still hunting down copies of all the episodes on DVD. That was a really funny show. Full of puns and edgy irreverent humor within a G rated show. loved it.

Also Earthworm Jim was pretty good, my best friend got me into that. He brought a DVD of it early this year or so thinking it was going to be some corny saturday morning cartoon with bad jokes but he quickly found out all the adult jokes in it and it started Homer Simpson's voice Dan Caslaneda. LOL I think it just came out on DVD, totally on my DVD list as well as a few hundred more titles of course. lol

Invader Zim has also been a personal favorite of mine. My best friend is jellious that I bought the Anime Studio release DVDs when they first came out plus the extra's disk and cardboard house case because it's horrably expensive on Amazon now. Though I felt the show didn't end properly. What I loved about Zim was the continuing plot. But the truth is, Zim and Dib are basicly the same. They are both outcasts with no friends and they want to accomplish something big and show the world but it shows that their goals are against each other. So each week it was like, who's going to win. And it just ended with a Christmas Griunch parody special which didn't really bring the plot closer like most of them did.

I'm not sure if you ever heard about all the Nickelodeon stories on how all the good shows got canceled. It's very interesting. Ren & Stimpy creator John Kricfalusi got fired due to iqnoring due dates and episode "Man's Best Friend" which never aired on Nick. Rocko ended due to adult jokes getting riskier. Zim ended due to the Bloody Gir controversy which was Jhonen Vasquez wanted an episode where Girl bleeded blood from his head and the team made a drawing of it and Nick said no, so they snuck the image in various episodes in the sky or if a scene faded to black or a tunnel scene or whatnot and it flashed on the screen during the opening credits of the Halloween Special and they got caught and canceled. And finally Angry Beavers weren't renewed so the whole team came up with one last episode where Dagget and Norbert not only admit that they are fictional cartoon characters and the show is ending but satirizing Nickelodeon only caring about making money even though the Beavers were going to die and be broke. Also they reference a censorship problem they had in an early episode where Daggot couldn't say Shut Up due to a complaint from a mother so Richard Horvitz had to dub the voice saying hush up. But in this final episode Daggot says sadly goodbye then he asks Norbert since they are no longer on the air if he can say anything without censorship and Norbert agreed, then Daggot yells out SHUUUT UP! lol It's really hilarious, but of course, it never got animated. The sound clip floats around YouTube and it's from this podcast interview with Richard Horvitz which must still be on the internet in mp3 dowloadable form. I have it on my ipod. It's really hilarious, they play the whole episode. lol

 

[Drtooth]

What made 90's cartoons so special was the fact Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures was made and blazed trails that would eventually lead to Nickelodeon having their first line up of original cartoon programming. Batman TAS came out and proved that super hero shows could actually be violent (Don't know what Spider-Man's problem was), and then you have the two main factors.

Of course, while there were still toy based programs, which people tend to forget. And while they weren't all terrible, we still had junk like Stone Protectors (Trolls for boys, that were basically TMNT knockoffs) and Street Sharks (OH! Another TMNT ripoff). But we also had some brilliant video game based cartoons... Earthworm Jim (the best video game cartoon there was) and Sonic the Hedgehog.

Still, what people don't realize is that the 90's broke so much ground in every aspect (even the rise of adult cartoon near the end of the decade) that made everything else possible, and we take it for granted that we wouldn't even have half the stuff people complain about not holding a candle to something they have more of a childhood connection to if 1990's trends didn't change animation. Everything we take for granted and say isn't good enough simply wouldn't exist. Super Hero shows are violent and deep... we still have strange cartoons that have created by credits in the titles... Imagine a world where we'd still have Super Friends NOT punching Lex Luthor in the face and more offspring of 40's and 50's cartoon characters.

 

[mupcollector1]

I still need to get the new Mighty Mouse DVD myself. John Kricfalusi's early work that would lead on to The Ren & Stimpy Show. Not to mention the ever famous flower sniffing scene that cost him his first fired job. lol

Even though there's still some good animated shows that are continuing on TV now a days

Superjail
Robot Chicken
Futurama
Beavis & Butt-head (still waiting for the next new season to be announced)
and South Park

But it's just a handful unlike all the wonderfully funny and creativy shows back in the 90s.

Speaking of Batman the Animated Series. I went into my local comic book shop. Sort of a mom and pop small shop but nice people. I was talking to the co-owner there asking if she had any Harley Quinn comics (LOVE HER ) and she didn't but she told me that she's still really popular and fans still demand her presents today and I was surprised. I know that there's this one fan site dedicated to her, wonderful site, I go there from time to time. lol

But yeah, there's barely any funny cartoons on TV now a days unfortunately. Probably one of many reasons why I don't have cable and just stick to internet and my DVD collection.

 

[Drtooth]

But yeah, there's barely any funny cartoons on TV now a days unfortunately. Probably one of many reasons why I don't have cable and just stick to internet and my DVD collection.

That's matter of taste stuff. We already seen the Renaissance of animation, and then the surrealist movement of animation... now we're in the weird pop folk art era that speaks to some people, but others don't get it but it completely wouldn't exist without those movements.

I'd liken the 1970's to the drawn manuscript era of art that was inaccessible to all but those who had money... only replace all those beautifully illustrated angels with stiff ugly artwork.

I do agree that Nickelodeon lost its crap and is focusing lousy live action programming because they'll perpetually think it's still 2005, when HOLY CRAP! Live action shows starring fake pop stars that we can sell albums of. Something like that is so revolutionary that no one's ever thought about it EVER in the history of man kind

Sorry if that goes off on a tangent... that was a DARK era for cartoons.

But Nick doesn't want any cartoons to succeed on their channel that aren't Dreamworks cartoons (think of the mess they'd be in if they screwed Dreamworks). they were ALL too happy to abandon Catscratched and that Lucha Libre thing I forget the name of.

CN, however... no matter what your feelings are about Adventure Time and Regular Show... consider this. CN has a couple cartoon series that have an audience again. And considering AT and RS have merchandising deals unlike Chowder and Flapjack (which had audiences, but CN wanted to kill them anyway), they're going to have a little longevity there. The take away is that they have cartoons that have audiences now. That means less CN Real and crappy attempts to get audiences who want live action programming on CN, even though they still try to force it down everyone's throats.

Then you look at Disney. Phineas and Ferb was their first non-TV/EI show since Kim Possible. They only made TV E/I shows to recycle on ABC Kids (cheap tactic). And it's a smash hit. It's kinda on the way out, but it's still popular. This from the company that told everyone who wasn't watching the then money making Hanna Montana (and other clones) to jump in the lake. Add to the fact they own Marvel, and make Marvel cartoon programming, and they revitalized their animated programming as well. They even have a Tron animated series. A cartoon based on the sequel to an infamous flop! Sure, I don't like how they ended Avengers to make another Avengers cartoon because of the movie, and I wish they could have saved Spectacular Spider-Man by hiring everyone possible back (similar to Doug)... but it's better than nothing but live action poppycock that tweens supposedly like.

I will say this, though. It's a great time for being a Super Hero comic book cartoon, since so many of them are being made. Even though they're usually ones that have movies.

 

[mupcollector1]

Yeah totally. I'm not huge with super heros but my best friend is. He's now getting into old comics remaster books wanting to read the ol' 60 Spiderman comics.
But like you said, it's the matter of taste. Because there's so many genres of animation and even animated shows and cartoon humor. Some people like Simpsons, other like Family Guy, and other like South Park or both or all three.

Me personally, I love the wild stuff. Cartoon violence and satirical irreverent dialog. I know that I could talk a bit rough about the new stuff and totally no hard feelings to the ones who do. Like you mentioned, it's a matter of taste, like food. Some like Cavear, others like mint ice cream. lol

Anyway back to cartoons and stuff. lol (Even though I'm now thinking about The Cow and Chicken episode where Cow looses his tounge and he runs loose in the candy store "Sweet, Sour, Sweet, Sour" lol)

Yeah, I like the wild cartoons, sometimes a social political element to it like The Simpsons and South Park, other's just complete stupidity for the fun of it, and sometimes for the scary psycho animation like in The Ren & Stimpy Show.

I think I've seen a clip of Regular Show but never cared for it. I always hear from my best friend on the phone who would just rant about all the new CN shows and The Looney Tunes Show (being a huge Looney Tunes fan like me, hates it!)
We just stick to the ol' classic Bugs Bunny trickery and Yosemite Sam or Elmer Fudd or some one kind dumb fat character getting blown up and what not
. lol Fun stuff lol

Though if there was something from the new CN that I don't like that I'm a bit upset about is the new MAD show. It's a little bit better than MADTV, but it's not as satirical, edgy, dark as the actual magazine. I'm a huge Mad Magazine fan. I've got a nice size collection of MADs and a few Cracked Magazines from the 90s. I love satirical humor. Because it doesn't only make you laugh, it makes you think. I think Dinosaurs and Spitting Image then later South Park got me into it first. lol

I was watching the rare unaired Mad Magazine Special from 1974 on one of my DVDs and it made me think, this could have been a TV show. They were making jokes on Communism and the econnemy and hospitials and even The Godfather, something that would have probably scared the FCC back then. Maybe it was too risky and it didn't air. But I'd love to see some charactured celebrities bunched around like bunching bags kind of like how Spitting Image did things, I think them and South Park was the closest to anything cartoonishly brutal yet satirically awesome like that. Not much satire now a days. We got TMZ (yuck-o-rama, my mom loves that show lol) Gimme a break. lol I still miss Supernews, kind of slow with it's humor but they made some good satire like Google Toilet, probably my fav from them. No one ever dared slam them, awesome. lol

As for 1970s, I really liked some of the Ralph Bakshi stuff. Fritz the Cat was good and revelutionary but it wasn't close to Robert Crumb's work in my personal opinion. I like Crumbs comixs much better. HUGE fan, one of my heros.

Coonskin I have a rare copy off, still need to watch the whole thing. That looked pretty good. Of course it's satirizing racism, but in my opinion, if it's in cartoon or puppetry form, you can get away with just about anything. lol
Not to mention Spike and Mike, lol

I have Heavy Traffic, but I still need to sit down and watch the whole thing. I've seen the trailer, looks super good. lol City evil stereotypes and whatnot, creapy, dark yet interesting. lol

And finally Dirty Duck. I REALLY WANT TO SEE THAT. I've seen a little clip on YouTube with this car salesmen who has this mad dog and he pulls out his gun and...well you know "ha ha, spot said right too folks, ahahahah." I was laughing like crazy thinking "NO WAY WAS THIS IN THE 70s!" lol

But it seemed like there wasn't much uncensored animation like that again until the raise of Lupo The Butcher and Bambi Meets Godzilla. lol Classics.

 

[Sgt Floyd]

I have never been a huge fan of Cartoon Network shows. I grew up on Nicktoons, and I really dislike what the channel Nicktoons has become. That channel is what the 90s Are All That should be. All the classic Nicktoons and some of the more recent, better nicktoons, like Jimmy Neutron and Danny Phantom. But uh...I digress.

As far as cartoon network shows, I was only really a fan of the powerpuff girls and courage the cowardly dog (was courage a 90s show?). But there were so many great nicktoons. Doug, Rocko, CatDog, Ren and Stimpy, Rugrats...

As far as I'm concerned, the Simpsons started going downhill at the end of the 90s :/

 

[D'Snowth]

(was courage a 90s show?).

On a technicality, as it started in 1999.

 

[Drtooth]

Though if there was something from the new CN that I don't like that I'm a bit upset about is the new MAD show. It's a little bit better than MADTV, but it's not as satirical, edgy, dark as the actual magazine. I'm a huge Mad Magazine fan. I've got a nice size collection of MADs and a few Cracked Magazines from the 90s. I love satirical humor. Because it doesn't only make you laugh, it makes you think. I think Dinosaurs and Spitting Image then later South Park got me into it first. lol

I'm a far greater fan of Mad than I ever was of MadTV. MadTV started out Mad magazine like, but devolved quickly into In Living Color knockoff... not that I disliked it, but there were less and less TV show parodies and more and more character pieces. The last few seasons were completely unwatchable though. The Beans and Rice Tour where they just annoyed people on the street? That was supposed to be funny?

My only gripe is about the Mad cartoon being geared towards slightly younger audiences, and some of the references I barely get... but I do like the show quite a bit. I find it superior to Robot Chicken. I can't tell you how many brilliant sketches I thought were ruined by tired jokes about drugs and sex. There was some really mean spirited one about He-Man and King Randor that was just poorly done. Though I do like a good number of their sketches (especially Captain Planet, Behind the Music with the Electric Mayhem, and Inspector Gadget and Skynet), some just fall flat... some seem poorly researched too. The Fraggle Rock one could have gone better if someone watched an episode... the Uncle Matt Postcard was there, though... everything else just wasn't.

Plus, you HAVE to like this one...

Somehow, they managed to hit the fact that TMZ is an evil organization bent on vilifying everyone in Hollywood but them.

Plus I can't find the Cobra Commander Talk show one.

I think I've seen a clip of Regular Show but never cared for it.

Trust me... you can't tell from a clip of Regular Show. I was all set to dismiss it until I saw an episode. On the one hand, it's got a slacker comedy angle, but then something completely weird happens in every episode that makes the show just... weird and wonderful. I never thought I'd like it, and now I'm a huge fan.