Well, I certainly am glad I decided to research a little before buying the new DVD. I don't own any incarnation of Emmett Otter's Jugband Christmas, but I am loathe to buy one knowing that Kermit isn't in it (better than buying it thinkin he's in it only to get a nasty surprise, though). So now I guess I have to decide if Emmett Otter without Kermit is better than no Emett Otter at all.