Now I'm glad I don't have cable....

[Drtooth]

I was on vacation this week, and stayed at a hotel that had cable. I watched in horror for 2 reasons...

live action shows on Cartoon network (which I've been warning of this apocolyptic menace for a while now).

New shows on TV land. not even TV Land originals.... I mean, they're going to air reruns of Extreme Home Makeover....

Now, this just strikes me in many ways.... we have 2 channels devoted to certain things, Cartoons and classic television. Now they've thrown it all away for really stupid attempts at ratings that will never work?

The live action shows on CN are bad enough (since the network has been sliding downhill since Billy and Mandy was canned), but isn't Tv land supposed to be a haven for people who don't like the current crappiness of television?

 

[D'Snowth]

Actually, I thought you knew about Cartoon Network playing live-action stuff all this time? They've been doing so ever since they had their own extreme makeover back in the summer of 2004. And Billy and Mandy got canceled? FINALLY! That show plumeted to the level of "extreme suckiness" ever since they split it up from "Evil Con Carne"!

And I feel your pain; I was OUTRAGED when TV Land announced they were adding Extreme Makeover: Home Edition to their line-up! WHAT ARE they THINKING? I mean, I can understand their original programs, because they most have to do with looking back on classic TV... but putting a modern-day show (that's still in production) on their line-up? ! That makes NO sense whatsoever! It doesn't even fit in with the TV Land atmosphere!

 

[CensoredAlso]

Well the simple fact is they don't create channels as havens for people, they do it to make money and to stay on the air. And while these channels were excellent and clearly had their audiences, they obviously weren't bringing in as much as other networks. It's a shame, but it is a business. In a perfect world, art wouldn't have to get mixed up with money.

The only way things really get changed is if enough people complain.

 

[Drtooth]

Warners and Viacom have enough money. I do not think anyone's gonna watch something that could be on ABC family. Extreme home makeover is bull plop, and I don't care the Muppets were on it once. They have betrayed their fanbase of old TV shows who don't want to rush out and buy a million box sets of DVD's.

They used to have such great stuff like Get Smart. And while the Batman 1966 series dispute is still raging on, they had the reruns.

But I've got on the subject of CN before. I do respect you do not like B&M or KND, but I still think they at least tried with those series. I look at My Gym partners a monkey and say... It's a bumper sticker or t-shirt at best. You can't make a series based soley on a title. Camp Lazlo is a poor substitute for the creator's original 1990's Nicktoon Rocko's Modern life. They have most of the same priciples, but they just don't make it into anything else but a Spongebob knock off. There are small segments of Rocko-esque humor, but they are too far and few between....

I didn't see Squirrel boy yet. I am intregued because it was created by Everret Peck, famous illustraitor and creator of Duckman.

But other than that, CN is tumbleweeds. However, they are trying to bring Courage the Cowardly Dog back in reruns. One of the last great ones they had.

Safe to say the days of Dexter and PPG are gone. Johnny Bravo is gone. Sheep in the Big City is long gone (no one appreciated it).

Back to the Monkey show, You watch Cow and Chicken, and it's a stupid show, right? But it's stupid in an enjoyable way. They just can't copy the refined idiocy that David Feiss created.

 

[Fragglemuppet]

Well, while I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist, I think that the problem is that slowly our diversity is being taken away from us. Think about it:

It's hard to say when it first began, but it just might have been that the first big change was when the Disney channel stopped showing quality Disney-related shows.
New York just won a small victory, when we got our oldies station back after it had been lost to some generic pop rock station.
This thing with TV Land, (I was getting ancy as soon as they announced their first original programing.)
And you just saw how close we came to loosing internet radio!

Notice a pattern?

 

[D'Snowth]

I'm glad they've brought back Courage the Cowardly Dog (even in just reruns), I used to be so obsessed with that show! It was awesome!

But yeah, "My Gym Partner is Monkey"? What kind of crap is that? Camp Lazlo is painful to watch, and I hate to admit that, because I remember telling Joe Murray via e-mail when he sold the show how much I was looking forward to seeing it (of course, that was back in the days when Cartoon Network still had it's flare).

Now let me ask something: does Viacom own both Nick @ Nite AND TV Land? If so, that may explain why when Nick @ Nite suddenly began playing "modern" sitcoms like Roseanne and The Cosby Show, TV Land slowly started to do the same.

 

[Drtooth]

As for Rosanne and the Cosby show, run out right now and look at your calendar and see what year it is....

These shows are 20 years old now. Scarey.

I don't mind sitcoms from the late 80's early 90's at all. I just wish they could bring ALF back there...

 

[D'Snowth]

Uh-oh... brace yourself Dr. Tooth, I was just watching the Courage the Cowardly Dog marathon on Cartoon Network just now, and they were showing a trailer for "Cartoon Network's First Live Action Original Series".

 

[Drtooth]

Yeah... out of Jimmy's head? I saw that like 20000 times during one commercial break... and some crap called fried Dynamite.

Of course, there's also rumors of the Kamen Rider series being on CN.... I hope they don't Americanize the heck out of it like when they did it back in the 90's.... Furbus? Ewww....-

 

[Xerus]

I too feel the same way sometimes. It took about six years for Cartoon Network to come to my cable station and when it finally did, most of the good classic cartoons were gone from their station for they were going to be aired on this new station called Boomerang. And it took a long time for Boomerang to come to my station as well.

Also, I had been waiting for Noggin to come to my cable station a long time. And when it did finally come, Sesame Street Unpaved, Electric Company, Square One TV, and 3-2-1 Contact were gone from their station.