So has Global Warming Resumed?

[Teheheman]

Yes but what else can we do? We DO have to rely less on oil, but we don't have anything else. That corn gas burns faster, so you're not saving any money at the pump. Plus, the price of food is going up because we're using more corn for that corn gas. We need to keep drilling for oil until we can come up with something that would make a lot of sense. Like, making a clean burning fuel out of tobacco. I mean, think about it. You stop paying the tobacco companies not to grow it, cigarettes would go up meaning that people might stop smoking, it's regrowable, so you don't have to drill for oil. But that's just me, I dunno. OH, what about this story?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080625/ap_on_fe_st/odd_gas_glitch

Daniel

 

[CensoredAlso]

When I get the money, I'm trading my car in for a hybrid. And plenty of people already have the money and just aren't buying them yet. Instead many keep going to the gas guzzlers which are largely (heh) unnecessary and very damaging to the planet.

The government is in no hurry to get away from oil and find alternatives. The public needs to make it clear they are sick of it and that they are willing to take some discomfort if it means helping the Earth. Right now, we're just saying we don't mind oil. And that's all the government will hear and care about. Until we make some sacrifices and make our discontentment clear, nothing is going to change.

 

[Ilikemuppets]

Like, making a clean burning fuel out of tobacco.

hat's all good and well, but I can't help but wonder what you would be releasing into the air then? *sniffs*

 

[Drtooth]

Yes but what else can we do? We DO have to rely less on oil, but we don't have anything else. That corn gas burns faster, so you're not saving any money at the pump. Plus, the price of food is going up because we're using more corn for that corn gas.

I don't think that corn gas is a long term solution. Though, maybe diverting corn reserves isn't exactly a bad thing. Off subject, corn products in food adds a hidden element to the health crisis. Corn starch, corn syrup? Maybe they should divert that corn, and have the food industry work with pure sugar instead.

But HERE'S where the problem is. In the 1970's, with the first Earth Day and the first major oil/gas shortage, we should have took that as a sign to say, "Fossil Fuels won't be around forever. We have to deal with psycho countries to get it. We need to make a home grown alternative." They didn't. In fact, alternate fuel only came out a couple years ago. We have a new technology that's still in its infancy, and it's NOT going to help as much as we hope.

I think the biggest joke was when the president said, "We're addicted to oil." To which he added, "eh, I'm just making conversation." and did bullcrap about it. The oil companies were supposed to use their tax cuts to develope resorces to study alternative fuels. instead, they pocketed the difference (hense the profits), and spend all the money trying to find a solution paying PR people to make commercials bragging/lying about how they're really part of the solution.

Another thing that cracks me up is that people still want them to tap into the arctic, which may not have that much oil in it. And these people think as soon as we tap it, gas will be back to 2 bucks a gallon in a week. it'll take years before we construct the machines to drill for it, let alone the actual drilling process and building of pipelines.

All these talking heads are on TV saying "there's no silver bullet." Well, there is, but it would cause the oil companies to lose a tiny ammount of money. You wanna know how we can bring down the cost of oil? Put a muzzle on stock speculators and investors artificially driving the price up. Tell everyone to start taking money OUT of oil. It contributes more than you think. At least put a heavy tax on oil investments. Someone has to tell them they're unfairly profiteering off of human misery, and that artifically driving stocks up is immoral. How come insider trading is considered a crime, and this isn't? it's like drugging up an athlete.

 

[Teheheman]

hat's all good and well, but I can't help but wonder what you would be releasing into the air then? *sniffs*

First off, that's why I said "Clean burning" and 2nd off, I don't think it's the tobacco that makes that smell, it's the nicotine they put IN the tobacco that makes it stink like that. Although, I dunno, I don't smoke, so I really can't tell ya.

Daniel

 

[Drtooth]

Mayb we need to abanon the internal combustion engine. There has to be something else. Too bad they had all this time to perfect the electric car, but (conspiracy theories aside) somehow it never made it past the developmental stage.

 

[Sgt Floyd]

They say that we're all gonna die EVERY year. Haven't you seen those magazines? We're all gonna die by 2006 on Sept. 11th, Nostradomous predicted. He always predicts that stuff, and it never happens, which makes ME believe that he has no idea what the heck he's talking about. It's like he picks a day out of the hat, or picks a bingo ball or something and says "This is the day next year" that day happens and life goes on, and he's sitting there saying "Did I say that day? I meant, This day" and on and on. So, I don't put much stake in stuff like that.

Daniel

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/nostradamus.asp

according to this, he made no such predition.

and as for all his other "predictions"? They are all so vague and generalized that they could mean ANYTHING and they dont say when specifically these things are going to happen. and they are not so much preditions as just things he wrote that people tend to believe are preditions. At least, thats my opinion.

but back on track. I dont think there is anything that we can do to stop global warming. sure, we might be able to slwo it down, but if its ging to happen its going to happen no matter what we do.

And right now, the ffort to use less gas isnt doing good. for one thing, those hybrid cars are more expensive in the long run than a car that uses gas alone. And trying to get people to use corn oil is forcing food prices to go up. The effort "use less gas" and "use more natural" is worse for us in the long run. what if we get rid of gas all together? we will be using natural oils from the food we eat, thereby causeing a shortage in food. No one wins in the battle to save the enviroment

 

[Ilikemuppets]

I don't think it's the tobacco that makes that smell, it's the nicotine they put IN the tobacco that makes it stink like that.
Daniel

Actually some types of Broccoli have more nicotine in them then many types of cigarettes so eat up kids!

PS. I don't smoke either so beats me too.

 

[Drtooth]

And right now, the ffort to use less gas isnt doing good. for one thing, those hybrid cars are more expensive in the long run than a car that uses gas alone. And trying to get people to use corn oil is forcing food prices to go up. The effort "use less gas" and "use more natural" is worse for us in the long run. what if we get rid of gas all together? we will be using natural oils from the food we eat, thereby causeing a shortage in food. No one wins in the battle to save the enviroment

Once again, corn makes food artifically cheaper. corn products are added into ALL of the food we eat... corn starch, corn syrup... corn feeding beef. If companies had to rely on traditional methods like using actual sugar, and feeding their live stock natural things like grass, of course the price is going to go up. I could see an upside to diverting the corn that makes our food unhealthy for gas. But the simple fact is thus...

Corn based ethanol is unperfected. As is the hybrid car. They had all this time to perfect alternate means of fuel, and more fuel efficient products. But they were too busy developing gas guzzling status symbols like SUV's and Hummers, and the gullible public gobbled them up. Now that they're finally seeing the effects, it's too late to do anything about it.

Seriously. Unless you have a huge family, or a self owned business, you don't need and SUV. And NO ONE needs a Hummer unless they're in a battle feild. Now we're going to have people that pretend to care what their selfishness, laziness, and petty ego have caused by buying mass marketed t-shirts... which will end up in a landfill a few months later.

 

[Ilikemuppets]

Now we're going to have people that pretend to care what their selfishness, laziness, and petty ego have caused by buying mass marketed t-shirts... which will end up in a landfill a few months later.

They do have those T-shirts out now that are made from plastic coke bottles.