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Your Thoughts: The Muppets Season 1 Episode 102 - Hostile Makeover

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Phillip, Sep 29, 2015.


What did you think of "The Muppets" episode "Hostile Makeover"?

  1. Absolutely positively! This episode was great!

  2. Bork bork! This episode was good.

  3. Mee mee. This episode was so-so.

  4. You're all weirdos! This episode was disappointing.

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  1. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    Tonight make plans to watch "The Muppets" new episode "Hostile Makeover" at 8|7c on ABC. Then join the discussion immediately afterwards in the Muppet Central Forum.

    Episode 102 - "Hostile Makeover"

    Kermit tries to make amends with Miss Piggy by setting up her up with Josh Groban, who shares his ideas to improve her late-night talk show. Meanwhile, Fozzie is invited to a party at Jay Leno's house; and the cast and crew are irked by Bobo selling cookies for his daughter's scout troop.

    If you missed "Hostile Makeover" or if you want to watch it again, this episode is now on-line.


    If you saw "The Muppets: Hostile Makeover" on ABC please like this post and share your thoughts below.
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2015
  2. LaRanaRene

    LaRanaRene Well-Known Member

    Poor Fozzie.

    Yolanda gets lots of lines! Well... for Yolanda.
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  3. ploobis

    ploobis Well-Known Member

    It was HILARIOUS!!! :) :mad: :o :concern:

    I'm really loving the Edginess of the show!

    DARTH MUPPET Well-Known Member

    I loved it more then Episode 1 my favorite part was the Electric Mayhem eating cookies, obviously high on marijuana but something like that goes right over kids heads so I am fine with it!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  5. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Apparently this thread got buried by the Spoilers thread. Anyway, here are my thoughts.

    1 Loved that Uncle Deadly got a part in the first segment.
    Piggy doesn't have a date for the People's Choice awards...
    UD: "Shocking, she seems like such pleasant company."

    2 Was that Yolanda trying to get other Muppets' signatures for Sweetums's birthday card?
    3 Laughed at :sing:'s reaction of birthdays being manufactured holidays.
    4 Already knew Bobo would be selling girl scout cookies for his daughter. Was surprised that :news: was selling cookies competing against Bobo.
    And on that subject, who was Newsie's ex-wife?

    5 Now I'm hungry for some gas station sushi.
    6 Another line that made me laugh was when :rolleyes: shot back at :shifty: about how his people started the plague so he shouldn't be so sensitive.
    7 The storyline involving Fozzie and Jay Leno was interesting... But I feel that it ended somewhat off. If Leno stole George Carlin's candy bowl, the same one Fozzie stole, then you'd think Jay would understand and try to help instead of getting mad and yelling at Foz to get out of his home.
    8 Apparently this episode was either before or after Kermit and Denise started dating. Denise was noticeably absent, unless she was the one behind Sweetums's birthday card or suggesting Josh Grobin as Piggy's date which set up the main storyline of the episode.
    9 They used the joke from the promo pilot about the band always being happy, legally now. It was delivered by Bobo and Scooter instead of Kermit though.
    10 Loved how Big Mean Carl made us Muppet monsters proud by eating cookies from both Bobo and Newsie.
    :insatiable: Where can me get cookies?
    11 Gonzo has a mom? And she got stranded on the goat ride up Machu-Pichu as part of the cruise in southern Africa? There are all these new referenced Muppets that aren't actually appearing that are just making me want for them to exist like Gonzo's mom and Newsie's ex-wife and Bobo's daughter.

    Keep up the good stuff Muppets, will tune back in next week, same frog-time and same frog-channel.

    DARTH MUPPET Well-Known Member

    why wouldn't Gonzo have a mom someone gave birth to him??
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  7. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Lips spoke!

    Yolanda spoke!

    Bobo and Newsman got a subplot!

    Loved this episode. The Fozzie-Leno story was enjoyable, as was the cookie subplot. The jokes all worked well.

    A+ episode.
  8. Daffyfan4ever

    Daffyfan4ever Well-Known Member

    I agree there. You would think there was a friendship blossoming between the two of them and it seemed like there was up to that point, but I guess they wanted to go with a comedic twist on that one. But, oh well, he'll always have Kermit.

    Well, maybe she just wasn't around. I mean not all characters will be in every episode. After all, we're still waiting for :sympathy: to make his debut on this series. (Pilot episode doesn't count.)
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  9. Muppy

    Muppy Well-Known Member

    I loved the first episode of "The Muppets" but this one was SO much better. Like another user said, this episode just felt a lot more "muppet-y".

    Highlights for me included:

    -Anytime Yolanda was on screen
    -Zoot's inappropriate drawing
    -Gonzo's lost mom
    -Uncle Deadly's line about how he's "woven a web of lies"
    -Fozzie always wanting a souvenir (and trying to stuff it in his hat)
    -Miss Piggy interviewing the author
    -Bobo and The Newsman's little feud
    -Kermit driving the golf cart
    -Josh Groban and Piggy's relationship
    -Kermit's line after he adds "Josh Groban Presents" to the Up Late with Miss Piggy sign
    -Kermit meeting Leah Thompson (and then Gonzo interrupting)

    Again the puppetry was amazing and the jokes were spot on (there wasn't 1 joke that I didn't laugh at). Can't wait to see what's in store for this show!
  10. ploobis

    ploobis Well-Known Member

    We also finally hear Lips speak after so many years of silence!
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  11. Ladywarrior

    Ladywarrior Well-Known Member

    Okay this is going to be pretty long but I'm gonna say it.

    First I liked the part with bobo selling cookies for his daughter. That was an adorable sub plot and it made me wanna hug bobo. Also I wanna see an appearance of his daughter at some point.
    Also Kermit being jealous and trying to jump over that guy to talk to piggy in her dressing room was funny as was his weird encounter with the guy from Blackish.

    What i didn't like? Eh...
    Well the first joke featuring zoot putting dirty art on a birthday card. I know exactly what he drew and it did NOT feel in character for him at all. Maybe some people view zoot differently than I do but I do NOT think of him as the immature type of person who would draw male sex organs on birthday cards.
    Also there seemed to be an implication that miss piggy does some... questionable things when she gets up in the morning or something which was just... ick.
    I am STILL VERY annoyed at the whole 'electric mayhem are stoners" joke. Zoot I am fine with since it seemed to be something established for him subtly but NOT everyone else. you might say 'but it's a band stereotype" it might be but I really don't think so. Yeah dr. teeth talks funny and is very easygoing but you don't have to be a stoner to be easygoing. Floyd doesn't act like he smokes pot, he acts like a 70s liberal, janice seems to be a vegetarian not a druggy. as for lips I don't know enough about him to know. As for animal. I don't know. So I will not accept ANYONE but zoot as someone who smokes pot.
    NEXT. FOZZIE IS NOT A THIEF! The whole thing with fozzie stealing things from jay lenos house wasn't funny. It felt out of character. I could imagine RIZZO or PEPE doing it but NOT fozzie. Of course if pepe did it he'd brag about it and not feel bad about it because he's a creep.

    Really some of the humor in the show doesn't seem like something Jim Henson would approve of... like the whole piggy joke I mentioned above and zoot drawing things on cards. Yeah they did weird things on the muppet show that could be considered childish but not something that idiot middle schoolers or Homestuck hipsters would do.

    I really DON'T care if nobody agrees with me about this stuff that is fine. This is just how I FELT. You can disagree more power to you this is just how I feel. If those kinds of things continue I might stop watching the show. and noooo before you say anything I want to say I know I know "jim henson didn't intend muppets to be for kids" I don't want to hear this excuse anymore. You DON'T have to be raunchy and disgusting to appeal to adults. This is muppets, NOT family guy!
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  12. JimAndFrank

    JimAndFrank Well-Known Member

    Definitely an improvement! This felt a lot more natural for the Muppets. This time, they didn't have to focus on setting the show up, so they could just have some fun in the new environment.

    -Kermit really got to hold his own this time around. He got to be funny, smug, self-assured, annoyed and everything in between. I'm so glad that Steve finally has a chance to embrace Jim's Kermit a little more.
    -The Muppet Newsman, out of all the obscure Muppets they could have chosen, got to partake in a C-storyline! That is brilliant and I hope we see more of him!
    -I am finally being able to tolerate Piggy a lot more than I have in the past. Eric is nailing it every single time.
    -The Swedish Chef is the King of Comic Timing. His and Piggy's interaction was hysterical.

    And did I mention LIPS GOT A LINE!!!


    It seems to me that while Fozzie has his place as Piggy's side-kick on the show, the writers haven't quite worked out what to to with him yet. They keep placing him in awkward situations away from the rest of the group. While the whole Jay Leno thing was funny, I hope they don't keep separating him from the rest of the troupe.

    DARTH MUPPET Well-Known Member

    I always thought the Electric Mayhem were stoners, I thought it was common knowledge and how they always were depicted?....
  14. LaRanaRene

    LaRanaRene Well-Known Member

    Fozzie didn't think of himself as a thief, he just wanted a souvenir. He felt like a thief afterwards after he realized what he'd done.
  15. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    Liked this episode. The pacing felt much better than the pilot, each storyline got room to breathe and wrapped up well. It was great to see some of the more obscure Muppets getting screentime, Bobo and the Newsman getting a storyline, and Yolanda and Sweetums and Lips getting lines.

    Piggy's interview with Rena Azlan was hilarious, her complete ignorance about libraries. It reminded me of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia when Dennis and Dee try to start a podcast and they don't actually know anything about current events and the world around them.

    Two demerits: it would have been fun to actually see Bobo's daughter, and where is Rowlf?
  16. tutter_fan

    tutter_fan Well-Known Member

    YAY for the MUPPET NEWSMAN!!!!!!!!! I'll admit seeing the whole gang going into "CODE RED" (while being their normal selves just moments before) with all of them running around like crazy before Piggy trashed the whole room was fantastic!!! The sub-plot with Bobo and the Muppet Newsman (speaking in his usual news-ish manner) was incredibly funny! I have yet to see a part where he has something strange happening to him. I'll admit the show is just as funny as the original Muppet Show itself!!!!
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  17. antsamthompson9

    antsamthompson9 Well-Known Member

    Minor Muppetz, I'm sure you happy about Lips getting a line. This episode was funny. I like that both Bobo and the Newsman have daughters. Big Mean Carl was very funny. The plot with Fozzie was good. It was nice to see Piggy be nice to everyone for a change.
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  18. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Really starting to love what Bill has been doing with Big Mean Carl.

    BTW the closed captioning acknowledged Yolanda by name. Definitely a surprise.

    It's interesting that Bunsen is the victim of physical abuse in this episode instead of Beaker.
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  19. Ladywarrior

    Ladywarrior Well-Known Member

    so where exactly did jim henson say they all smoke pot? I don't remember him saying that anywhere and bands don't have to smoke pot. :/ I don't make them smoke pot in my fanfic. I don't think of them that way at all and NEVER did.
  20. JimAndFrank

    JimAndFrank Well-Known Member

    Oh! I almost forgot! Did anyone else notice the SPECTACULAR puppetry when Piggy was crawling across the piano towards Groban?! Brilliant!

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