Respectful Politics Thread (Let's Just See)

[MWoO]

Right. As always, pin the blame somewhere else instead of the actual source of the problem:

- The media
- Democrats
- Obama
- Video games
- Girls
- Bullies
- Cars
- Trucks
- Porn
- Doors
- No good guys with guns

Those are the real reasons we have gun violence in this country; has absolutely nothing to do with the NRA pushing agendas and instilling fear of losing guns, or Trump instilling hatred of non-white people into the far right - all of that is just radical leftwing hyperbole, amIrite?

I did not blame the media for gun violence. I blamed the media for focusing on gun violence stories like this non-stop, waiting for the next one so they can do 24 hour coverage and rack in those advertising dollars. The media's coverage of mass shootings makes people feel unreasonably unsafe.

The country is safer now than it ever was. Plain and simple, end of story. Look up stats or crime and violence. We are just flat out safer. But the media portrays a country where you can be shot at any time.

 

[MWoO]

I also blame the media for the fear of terrorism that started in 2001. After 9/11 the news covered every aspect of that attack which in turn made it way easy for the government to take away a ton of civil liberties and made it super easy for air ports to essentially do what ever they want to us for the sake of "safety".

On 9/11 4 planes got hi-jacked. Two crashed into NYC's Twin Towers, one into the Pentagon, and one into the ground. Out of the hundreds, or even thousands of planes that take off each day. We let congress pass the patriot act. Everyone cheered until they realized what that meant. I see the same happening with gun control.

Bad things happen. Bad people exist. Imposing more and more laws on law abiding citizens will not stop the criminals. There is already gun regulation. There are already background checks nation wide when buying from a gun dealer. What else do you want? No law will make someone change their mind about shooting up a public place.

Now, we have Red Flag laws being proposed. Is this suppose to be Minority Report? We strip people of a right because they might do something? Do we take away the license of an alcoholic because he might drink and drive? Red Flag laws are literally the exact thing the founding fathers fought against. The government coming and taking your fire arms by force.

 

[Blue Frackle]

It says that panic over school shooting caused by the media has infiltrated the school system to the point that they instill the fear into student. Same thing happened when kids use to go through atomic bomb drills decades ago.

You're just expecting the media to not report on a huge news story?

But the media portrays a country where you can be shot at any time.

There's no portrayal, that's reality bud.

 

[MuppetsRule]

Right. As always, pin the blame somewhere else instead of the actual source of the problem:

- The media
- Democrats
- Obama
- Video games
- Girls
- Bullies
- Cars
- Trucks
- Porn
- Doors
- No good guys with guns

Those are the real reasons we have gun violence in this country; has absolutely nothing to do with the NRA pushing agendas and instilling fear of losing guns, or Trump instilling hatred of non-white people into the far right - all of that is just radical leftwing hyperbole, amIrite?

So if one of the real reasons for the mass shootings and the perceived increase in gun violence is President Trump's instilled hatred of non-white people into the far-right, then how do you explain the shootings at Columbine or Sandy Hook or even the mass shooting at the theater in France a couple of years ago?

I'll hang up and listen but I'm sure you'll dodge this challenge like you dodge all others.

 

[fuzzygobo]

I still remember 9/11 like it was yesterday. My grandmother lived ten miles from the Twin Towers. She didn't have to turn on the tv, she saw it out her window.
The most heroic thing that day, the flight that crashed in Shanksville, PA heard about the planes hitting the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. They might have been aware they were headed for the White House.
They realized they would die too, but they kept the terrorists from hitting their target, and keeping the death toll from reaching higher. If that's not bravery, I don't know what is.

 

[MWoO]

You're just expecting the media to not report on a huge news story?


There's no portrayal, that's reality bud.

Obviously I expect the news to cover these things. However, do we need 24 hour coverage that is more concerned about reporting first than reporting correctly?

And no, it is not reality that you are likely to be shot just from being out in public. Just do a slight bit of research into the actual stats. If you can come back to me with facts that say we are all at high risk of being shot i'll eat my hat

 

[LittleJerry92]

Going out in public does not make you safe.

You are always at risk of getting mugged, shot or stabbed. Sure, some areas might not be as dangerous but just waking alone on a side walk could always put you at risk.

There was one time some teenage punk threatened to cut my head open just because he was being a dumb*** and not paying attention to the road and was on his phone and almost ran me over, then tried putting the blame on me just because he thought I cut him off. He could have been all talk, sure, but you also never know what he could have had in his car. But if you want to know the honest truth, I didn’t even step foot out of my apartment when I finished my walk because I feared for my safety that day.

 

[MWoO]

Going out in public does not make you safe.

You are always at risk of getting mugged, shot or stabbed. Sure, some areas might not be as dangerous but just waking alone on a side walk could always put you at risk.

There was one time some teenage punk threatened to cut my head open just because he was being a dumb*** and not paying attention to the road and was on his phone and almost ran me over, then tried putting the blame on me just because he thought I cut him off. He could have been all talk, sure, but you also never know what he could have had in his car. But if you want to know the honest truth, I didn’t even step foot out of my apartment when I finished my walk because I feared for my safety that day.

So, should we ban teenagers from driving now? Should we ban knives? Should you fear for your life every time you walk out the door because something might happen?

I love when people prove my points for me.

Living has some degree of danger. Yes, anything can happen to you. That does not mean you are likely to have something happen to you. That does not mean you are at great risk of being shot. Bad things happen. Everything has some risk of happening. To quote Ken Lilly, anything is possible. But.... probably is a whole other ball of wax.

 

[MWoO]

Also, while everyone states it was white supremacists that are mass shooters, are we just going to ignore the fact that the Dayton shooter was a crazy liberal? His social media was full of Antifa rhetoric. But I guess we will just pretend that doesn't exist.

 

[LittleJerry92]

So, should we ban teenagers from driving now? Should we ban knives? Should you fear for your life every time you walk out the door because something might happen?

Yup.