Respectful Politics Thread (Let's Just See)

D'Snowth

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I mean if people actually paid attention to his platform during the election, they'd see how far more right-leaning he really is.

Then again, it wasn't the people who wanted him, it was the DNC . . . just like with Hillary in 2016.
 

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I mean people only wanted the guy because he was Obama’s VP 🤷🏿‍♂️

That’s basically how much the left was p3nis riding the guy.
 

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Wait, so President Biden is far right leaning now? When did this happen?
 

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I mean I (and Snowth for that matter) have brought that up before (and I’ve mentioned some of my own dislikes for Biden).
 

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I still think Bloomberg would've been the ideal Democratic nominee. I know people hated him simply because he's also wealthy (then again, what politician isn't), so some saw him as blue version of Trump because of it . . . but unlike Trump, at least Bloomberg actually gave back with his wealth, and even had the guts to acknowledge when a policy of his was a failure or a mistake (i.e. Stop and Frisk) and made efforts to either reverse the policy or fix it to where it actually works for the betterment of the people . . . not to mention, I felt like when it came time for the debates, he would've stood a better chance going up against Trump than Biden.

Bernie still would've been good too, but he was clearly way too progressive for the DNC's liking.
 

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I'm pretty sure Bloomberg only acknowledged that Stop and Frisk was a mistake because of the backlash. And he also had his controversies regarding the NDAs on top of having next-to-no personality.
 

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The DNC has a clear beef with Bernie; he got screwed over by them twice in favor of a woman married to a sex offender and a guy who was the VP of the first African-American president
 

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This kind of puts into perspective something that some in this thread, particularly fuzzygobo, are quick to jump on when it comes to discussing more liberal/progressive points of view:


Granted, this is more specifically about the workforce in the COVID era, but it can also apply to the workforce in general: it's not so much that people don't want to work, they just want better pay, which conservatism won't ever offer.
 

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Well, here’s the angle from someone who has worked just about every restaurant angle except bar tending.
Even before Covid, the restaurant industry is very competitive and it’s extremely difficult to make a profit. It’s not like owners are sitting on a stack of money and paying the staff minimum wage. A restaurant is doing well if it has a profit margin of 3%. That means for every dollar that comes in, there’s 97 cents in expenses.
Here’s the problem with the $15 minimum wage (five years ago I was making more than that at a high-end restaurant, because I had twenty years experience).
$15 an hour would not be sustainable at your local fast food joint. If you have a staff of ten wanting $15 an hour, you’re going to have to let two go. So the remaking eight might get more money, but they’re doing more work.

The pandemic crippled a lot of restaurants, especially in New York. It is true many had to rely on unemployment. But it’s a negative incentive to get paid more to stay home than to work. But Unemployment expires after six months.
I’ll be the first to admit working in a restaurant is hard work. Operative word, WORK. The hours are long, it’s hot in the kitchen, it’s dirty, it’s backbreaking, but for many years, I loved what I did. When a customer says they liked my food that made it worth the effort. I made a good living at it because I stuck it out long enough and worked my a$$ off.

There may be restaurant owners that exploit their workers or underpay them. But at least three of my bosses treated me extremely well, and I stayed loyal for many years. Not everybody is cut out to work in a restaurant, but the industry served me well.
 
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