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Brown Johnson: Ernie and Bert ARE Gay (if you want)

Discussion in 'Sesame Street' started by D'Snowth, Feb 8, 2019.

  1. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Here we go again. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


    To be fair though, this is about the most blunt, lucid, and well-presented answer to the problem: if people want to think they're gay, fine; if people don't want to think they're gay, fine too. Art is always open to interpretation, who are we to say whose interpretation is right and wrong? Think what you want to think, and leave it at that.
  2. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Yes! You see, this is the answer they should've given to begin with.
  3. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    but you know the crazy people will completely ignore that and still scream and cry when you say they're not gay
    LittleJerry92 and ConsummateVs like this.
  4. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    My take is that if some people want to think of them that way, fine. The cannon itself of SS doesn't really suggest they are a couple, though, but whatever.

    It's things like that petition a few years ago to make them come out/get married that I don't like.
  5. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    This is a case in point where people are just quick to put assumptions and label things on others.

    I have never considered Ernie and Bert gay; they always came off as good friends and nothing more. What bothers me is how people actually make this subject into a big deal.

    I’m just waiting for the day Sesame Workshop gets a lawsuit from someone for not making them homosexual and they end up in court over it. This world has gotten to a ridiculous point in first world problems that I can easily see this happening now.
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  6. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    But this way, everybody should be happy: those who want them to be gay are free to think so, and those who don't want to be are free to think so as well; this is the answer SW should have given years ago.

    Granted, it's only been recent years they would have been able to give such an answer - if they gave this answer, say, ten years ago or longer, then they probably would have faced some kind of lawsuit or backlash from a group like One Million Moms or similar for trying to indoctronate and brainwash our children into an evil cult that's trying to take over the world and commit genocide of heterosexuals. Parents would be burning SS merchandise with Ernie and Bert on it: plushes, DVDs, books, etc. funding would be slashed for the show on PBS, and it may not still be on today because of it.
  7. Blue Frackle

    Blue Frackle Well-Known Member

    Ernie and Bert aren't gay, they're foam and rubber.

    I mean, Frank and the creators said they're not gay, so they're not gay.
  8. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    its open to interpretation. if someone wants to see a character as gay, fine.

    it only becomes an issue when overzealous nutballs who cram their interpretation down your throat and scream and rage and CRY HOMOPHOBIA when someone says they think otherwise.
  9. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    But he later changed his mind and essentially said the same thing that SW is saying now.
  10. Blue Frackle

    Blue Frackle Well-Known Member

    What is SW saying now?
  11. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Read the OP.
  12. Blue Frackle

    Blue Frackle Well-Known Member

    lol, I'll take Frank's word over a lady who's been around the show for two years, but her remarks were fine.

    I still don't think they're gay though: they don't sleep together, have no romantic relation and quite frankly at times seem to hate each other.
  13. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I think that's why people think of them as a couple. It's a common stigma/trope, especially in fiction, that old married couples are always bickering with each other, and in some eyes, that's what they see Ernie and Bert as: an old married couple that bicker all the time.

    But really, this can be said of a lot of duos in fiction: Felix and Oscar, even Shredder and Krang (the latter of which, James Avery joked that he and Pat Fraley actually treated the dynamic of Shredder and Krang as if they really were an old married couple).
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  14. DarthGonzo

    DarthGonzo Well-Known Member

    Officially, they’re not gay.

    Basically, all this statement says is, “They’re whatever you want them to be. Whatever. Leave us alone about it.”
  15. Blue Frackle

    Blue Frackle Well-Known Member

    Would Statler and Waldorf apply to this, or do they not argue enough?
  16. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I think the jury's been out on them for a while now.

    On a slightly related note, though they've never been known to argue or anything, there's been speculation about Bunsen and Beaker for so long, not to mention the "Flowers on the Wall" video implying there's something going on between them.
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  17. Blue Frackle

    Blue Frackle Well-Known Member

    The Bunsen/Beaker thing is disturbing because Beaker would just be like his slave.:eek:

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