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Your Thoughts: The World According to Sesame Street

Discussion in 'Sesame Worlds' started by Phillip, Oct 24, 2006.

  1. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    What I don't get is why do they have to take their old long going battles and old mess, politicts and all that junk on the kids. It affects them. Them them their Sesame Street. Give them their childhood, peace of mind. Don't let this stuff get in the way and affect the show.
  2. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    I know what you mean. Adult issues shouldn't affect children so deeply. On the other hand, it's hard to keep it from children when their homes are being attacked. One thing that documentary showed was that kids in other countries have to grow up faster, going to work for their family etc.
  3. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I noticed that at one point, there is a sampling of Rubber Duckie dubbed into a few different languages. It's been awhile since I last saw Sesame Street: 20 and Still Counting, but is this just a clip from the scene from that special that featured the song in a few different languages or a different montage?
  4. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    Yeah, but like the Israeli, Palestinian virsionThw way it stoped production and the how that dont want people in those countries in the same scean or skit with eachother or talking with each other, human or muppet. I mean that want the people who are different (either one) not to be shopwn together or in the same skit. They shouldn't let this stuff affect the kids or the show. They shouldn't let it get in the way of the kids. You just can't teach kids peace or understanding or anything like that that way. It's just in invite to let the some old stuff continue to happen.
  5. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    I know, it's so frustrating. It just keeps going on and on. Though I think part of their motivation for keeping them separate is the fear of other people causing trouble because of it. That's why the people in Kosovo wanted the Sesame signs to be separate. It's a mixture of fear of retaliation and yes, prejudice.
  6. MrsPepper

    MrsPepper Active Member

    I totally agree with everyone on here. It was very hard-hitting. I loved it, I thought that it was amazing. I had no idea the type of work that everyone does at Sesame Workshop, so I was completely floored when I saw what they do all over the world. Joan Ganz Cooney should be nomiated for a peace prize; whoever suggested that in the first place has a point.
    Also, I am a relatively worldly person; I'm not the pest at understanding politics at times, but I know it's important so I try to listen and learn. What i learned from this special about the way life is for children in these countries, and what they are trying to do to subtly change that, it really affected me. I think living in Nortyh America puts you in a bubble sometimes, and you can easily forget that we are the minority. We are the richest continent with so many resources, but most of the rest of the world is suffering in ways that we don't even know.
    I'm really glad that I got to watch this special (yay for getting PBS up here!) and I will be buying the DVD as soon as I can, and lending it to everyone I know. :)
  7. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    I think it's just human behavior. I mean it's what's been going on for forever over their. It's just how some people in this world are or it just the way things are or the way the world works. I maen their are people in this world how hate us and want to do horible thigs to us that I can't say on this site and what us dead just because of our belief, or because we believe in freedom. Heck, they don't even need a reason, that's just what they want. I might come across as rude or disrespectful or intolerant but that's just waht some people's very belief is.
  8. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member


    Sorry, just helping you out, but anyway...:smirk:

    It was really the collaboration of the whole team: Joan Ganz Cooney (creator/founder), Joe Raposo (music), Jeff Moss (writing) Jim Henson (puppetry), Jon Stone (director) and the cast of actors/performers, the research team, etc. Without any of those elements, Sesame Street would not be the phenomenon it has become.:p
  9. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member

    That was me!!:excited: What do I win?
  10. Lynn Lamousin

    Lynn Lamousin New Member

    I saw this when it premiered at Sundance. I was in a press screening and there was a mass exodus within the first 15 minutes. I stayed until the end, but buyers weren't interested. It was definitely more of a marketing piece than an unbiased documentary. With that said, I did enjoy it.

    Lynn
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    >>I wasn't expecting this to be as heavy and hard hitting as it was, but as a big political documentary buff I could see why they made it that way impact wise.

    But wow, not sure what to say...it's crystal clear in this time of global chaos and uncertainty, the world NEEDS Sesame Street more than ever. I think Jim Henson needs to be given the nobel peace prize posthumously, or at least whoever runs international Sesame Street. Absolutely astonishing what they are able to do. And I liked how they make each production very culturally rich and specific to the at region.<<

    Yes, indeed. This documentary showed how some things are joyous, yet bourgious (sp), such as the child saying TV is bad for your eyes, and yet watches it. SOme of it was about how you make a show. Some of it was a great retrospective. But mostly it's about how these people desperately want to change the horrid situation of the world with the younger generation.

    >>Yeah a lot of people forget just how beyond evil and soul crushing the globe has become..from Darfur, Sudan, the Congo, Tanzania, Sierra Leone, Rawanda, etc in Africa...to the middle east, to former Yugoslavian countries, to Israeli controlled Palestine to Chechnya to all over. Im a big political/history/socio geo political researcher...and thankfully(or not)
    this documentary didnt go into to even a 20th of the truly unthinkable things happening worldwide on a massive scale...

    And THIS is why people need to realize the Muppets arent just some fad from their childhood...people should LOOK at the amazing positive effect Jim Henson's work has had and is having right now. For a lot of these kids, who have no education but instead work at a small age or see alot of horror or extreme poverty...this maybe the only glimpse they see into positivity and education.

    Yes, the Israeli/Palestinian joint effort did not go off as they had wanted, but at least they tried. Everyone is taught to hate at such a young age. In America children are taugh to hate Muslims/Arabs, in the Arab world many kids are taugh tto hate Americans and Jews/Israelis. In Northern Ireland kids are taught to hate opposing religions. In Russia kids are taught to hate darker skinned Russians. It's all a sickness that the children of today will have to shake. And when ya have 7-9 year olds in Africa taught to kill and butcher villagers as part of state sponsored genocide death squad millitias, you know
    that were going to have to work a little harder.<<

    Very saddening, disheartening stuff. Idoit parents of idiot parents pander to the machiavellian anus heads that are in power, little knowing, it's just said world leader's sick form of entertainment, and way of throwing the REAL problem to someone or something else so they don't actually have the olives to revolt. Come on, Kim Jung Il only made nukes because he knows that He's a horrible leader, and put the entire country into outlandish poverty. That's one example.

    Now, here you have nice decent people saying.. "ENough! We need to start making changes to bring world peace so people can actually deal with THEIR OWN problems." And they are3 the quickest to be dismissed. You know ., .. because peace is associated with Hippies... hippies are freaks. Not to mention people who are either extremely content with their lives or p.o'd at another kind of people are so easy to control... as opposed to, of course P.o.'d at the government, who KNOW theey are being controlled. In this case, it's people p.o'd at different people.

    ALl these situations are complicated... but they drug out to "He started it!" "Nuh uh" fights, each using bombs. You see, boys and girls, by using religion or personal differences, you can scare people into liking you, no matter how evil and corrupt they are. And said people can come into power, and make you hateful, you know, to steer you away from the REAL problems of the world. that's what Hitler taught the world. And now we're seeing the same crap over and over, and EVERYONE who really wants to help is powerless to stop it.

    I guess it's very depressing a giant Muppet Porcupine and some friendly monsters can't touch everyone's hearts. They aren't all bad. There are kids that want to get along. Muslims and Jews that realize that both religions just boil down to "Thoughts to make life better for everyone" and agree to disagree on some different ideals. But sadly, these aren't the ones making noise. And often, these people are the first ones in line. And their once peaceful families get enraged and start the same chain of events over again.

    It's happening all over the world. And it would take a unanimous vote for peace for things to be dealt with.

    >>Everyone laughed and made fun of the "Aids muppet", in their ignorance they do not see how massive a pandemic it is in certain regions, where 99% of its victims are straight.<<

    And didja notice they were all rich, well to do, white guys from the US? And even Jerry Falwell...JERRY FALWELL praised the character. And some of his followers were in the "Ernie and Bert are hypnotizing kids to be gay" wacko movement.
  12. TheJimHensonHour

    TheJimHensonHour New Member

    drtooth not to be rude or anything friend but it's really hard to read your posts you really should quote people so we know who you're responding to.:)
  13. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    ALl the quotes are from Beaker. Sorry to make it so unclear for you, though.

    The gist of my post is that the world is pretty much screwed up, and we have nothing but corrupt leaders to blame. And I mean that for ALL countries, not just any one in specific. But the corruption varies from country to country. SOmetimes its on a corperate level, sometimes it's for of an "Absolute power" type thing. Certain world leaders throughout the course of history have used fear and hatrid to get into power, like Hitler (being the best example of it going too far). Mainly because if people actually focused on said leaders being corrupt, they'd over throw them in a heart beat, and focus thee hatrid to those leaders, not each other.
  14. travellingpat

    travellingpat Active Member

    i thought it was very well put together and it was great to hear some of the background on the other productions that most of us have never seen!
  15. SSLFan

    SSLFan Well-Known Member

    Do you guys think Joan Ganz Cooney is not still over Jim Henson's passing? Well, we all love him and all of the things he's done, but it's years since he's passed! Truly he will be missed, but it seems she can't go a day with out thinking of him. Sorry if it seems like I'm being rude, but I just had to ask this. R.I.P Mr. Henson.:cry:


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