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Your Thoughts: Abby in Wonderland

Discussion in 'Sesame Merchandise' started by Phillip, Sep 27, 2008.

  1. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    As a kid, whenever I got the old 80's SS videos from the library, I didn't care or know that they were old. The only thing I cared about was that I liked them. I'm sure if kids get exposed to some old SS, I'm sure they'll find it enjoyable.
  2. Redsonga

    Redsonga Well-Known Member

    Me to..when I saw SS clips and cartoons from the 70's on SS I thought they were brand new..I always thought "Gee golly, how do they draw things so fast?" :coy:
  3. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Exactly, I don't understand this school of thought that's come around lately that kids don't watch older shows. It does not match the real world. It seems to go along with the trend of making everything safe and simple for kids, so as not to "confuse" or "challenge" them too much.
  4. Redsonga

    Redsonga Well-Known Member

    I don't know about the "confuse" or "challenge" thingie, I mean are they trying to make it to where little ones hardly have a reason to ask questions anymore? :sympathy: Even with my learning disability when I was little I never had much trouble understanding non-dumbed down shows...The worst thing they did was improve my vocabulary:coy:
  5. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Yeah it's like everyone in society is downplaying the role of the parent. Kids shouldn't just observe TV or the world alone. Parents are there to answer questions. I think some of this is guilt over how so many more parents are having to work and be away from their kids (which is largely the government's fault!)
  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I blame the creation of Blues Clues... and the fact that too many hack Child Psychologists (the ones that are shifty and have questionable credentials) who are out to say something ridiculous in order to sell books... and Baby Einstein.

    Anyway, Abby getting her own DVD is almost a contractual obligation... I mean, she has all this merchandise (again, I reiterate, EXCEPT for a PVC collectible, which I'm still waiting to see), so a DVD story would only make sense.

    It seems they should have made a movie, but they made a TV special instead, and I think that royalty reasons and stuff like that kept bonus segments and skits off the DVD. I mean, no brainer... The SS News Flash segment with Alice would probably be great... but then they'd have to get permission from Disney... and all that nonsense.

    If there's one thing I think these SS DVD's need is extra segments, new or old. 12 bucks for a 45 minute special... it really needs a bonus of some sort.
  7. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets Well-Known Member

    Well, they do have permission to use anything with Kermit that they already own. But it could be different fro DVD. I do not know?
  8. Redsonga

    Redsonga Well-Known Member

    I don't really think Disney owns Alice anyway :p. I mean unless she looks exactly like the Disney version :\
  9. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    It has been confirmed... Abby in Wonderland WILL air the day after Thanksgiving. There's a promo for it that's airing on PBS.
  10. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    I've been watching the movie on one of my stations and so far, it's okay. The bets parts are the scenes with Cookie, E&B's short cameo and the T Party, especially the song and Cookie showing up and eating everything.
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I think my review will be biased as I didn't have to pay for a 10 dollar copy.....

    But I thought it was a very cute little special, myself. Definately felt too short, and like it really needed to at least be a full 50 minutes. But we really got a nice character study on the part of Abby. She is in a rush to grow up, and by the end of her voyage, she realizes that hurrying into things like that causes trouble. It's best to keep looking forward to that day, yet enjoying her life before the time comes. A very valuable lesson, with kids racing to grow up these days.

    Ernie and Bert's cameo was brilliant. Unlike I predicted, it seemed like they didn't completely blend the Alice books together ( I don't want to spoil their scene, so I won't say why).

    And I have to say, I like how they handled the "Eat Me" and "Drink me" bits. And how Cheshire Cat Cookie's eyes disappeared last of all, in lieu of a toothy smile (as Cookie has no teeth). And Oscar came across villainous all the while staying clear of the "off with her head" thing.

    Though, it was interresting to see that Elmo Rabbit was a blend of the White Rabbit and the March Hare... and yes, Grover's sequence may have been the best in the whole special.

    So, pretty fun to watch, but as a DVD, it really seems like it should have been bulked up with something else. I give it 2 Wows... Wow Wow!
  12. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    One thing I was unhappy about was Zoe as the Door Mouse. Her freaking out at the mention of the word "cat" was not in character for her. I think Telly would been a better choice.
  13. antsamthompson9

    antsamthompson9 Well-Known Member

    I got it for my birthday and I thoght it was good. I was a bit disapointed that Ernie didn't interact with Abby. I've never seen them interact before.
  14. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    But don't you remember? Those characters weren;t really in the book, and it's a common misconception :D . Anyone else think that was a shot at Disney?
  15. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Not really, as various productions of Louis Caroll's books get mismashed into one work as I've seen throughout the years.
  16. antsamthompson9

    antsamthompson9 Well-Known Member

    Well, I diden't know untill I saw that scene.
  17. The Shoe Fairy

    The Shoe Fairy Well-Known Member

    I finally saw it today. I really enjoyed the special, although it could have been longer, and some parts I thought went for too long. I really enjoyed Cookie's role, I laughed so hard at that, and also at the Grover sequence. The songs were great too, as I have had "My Own Fairy Tale" stuck in my head all day. I really enjoyed it, and it had a nice message. It also seemed a good study on Abby's character and gave a lot of character development.
  18. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Absolutely. If there's one thing I hate about Elmo's World and stuff like that is you see the characters, but you don't see what makes them tick, their drive, their passions... etc. That dulls a character to me. But here we saw Abby explore her inner most desire, and how she comes to terms with it, almost growing up and moving on from it completely. We get to see a character develop and change and grow. Much better than having Abby pop up to say the letters of the day and sing songs about words...
  19. Redsonga

    Redsonga Well-Known Member

    I'd be sad if Abby moved on from the idea totally..Maybe she just learned that if you are going to pick your own fairy tale you might want to pick something a little less crazy than Alice in Wonderland ;). Of course, the wanting to be grown up part is common when you are really little...
    But since she is a fairy being an 'adult' might mean helping in other fairy tales and never having her own after all :\. Maybe she was better off in Wonderland...
  20. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Well there's nothing wrong with helping other young ones when they get their own fairy tales, hehe. And you know sometimes growing older and away from childhood only makes you appreciate it more. And it doesn't have to mean you give up what you love completely. :)

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