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Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by Beauregard, Apr 21, 2004.
Swamp Years is a kids movie though, it's aimed at kids-- kids! KIDS!! Maaallfuuuunctioning!!
I have to agree, and that's what I've been saying for some time. It's a nice film... A classic... but it's more like the Muppets are guest stars in their own movie. Had Richard Hunt been alive, I feel Scooter could have at least played the Nephew of Scrooge. If it were a true Muppet Movie, the Muppets would be the stars, and the human celebrities would be just the secondary characters. Plus, Gonzo and Rizzo seem book ended into the film as Narrators to make it a touch more Muppety. Plus, Fozzie was bear-ly in it... Bearly! Ha Ha HA...
Though MCC has a stronger script than VMC, I think I like seeing the Muppets as themselves more than as secondary and tirtiary characters.
You've put into words what I've thought since I saw it.
So what's wrong with kid's movies? I'm going to see Pooh's Heffalump (spelling?) movie when it come's out. And Finding Nemo was awesome. All kids movies are great but I digress.
Back to Dr. Tooth's point. Yes it was almost as if they (Muppets) were guest stars. However, you gotta think of the time period that that movie happened. It was the first big project after Jim Henson and Richard Hunt died. So naturally it was a bit rocky. Those that were left had to adjust to working without a part of their family. Besides Micheal Cain was an awesome Ebenezer Scrooge.
I agree with that last bit. If Jim and Richard were around at that time, I guess the project would either be completely different as a movie, or perhaps, not a movie at all... a special, I'd say. If things were like that, it would probably have been an all Muppet performance with humans as the Ghosts, celebrities most likely. Scrooge would have been J.P. Grosse and Scooter could have been the nephew... makes you think about the possibilities.
With that said, I felt the movie lost most of the Muppet's muppety Zing (there's no actual word for it), plenty of magic, but no Muppet zing. maybe the thing about the rubber chicken factory, but that's it. MFS and VMC didn't quite have the magic, but they did have a zing... the wackiness that the muppets usually bring. Mti has a little more of this, so out of the 2 book movies so far, it's the one I prefer!
So the equation would be
"Zing" + "Magic" = what we're looking for.
Hear that Muppet Holding Company????
As far as kid's movies go, I happened to LOVE "Follow That Bird".
>>"Zing" + "Magic" = what we're looking for.<<
Hmmm... well... a little more zing than magic. We don't wanna get too sappy.... say (5z + 4m)/ c (classic characters)= what we're looking for. That's a basic formula... I'd get more coplicated, but then it'd just be silly!
Me likey. Though, perhaps, it should be divided by c+.5r (classic characters plus a half amount of Rare characters)
then multiply by .4n (new characters). Oh my head hurts.
Hmm. Maybe not Four.
I'd say more like, two new characters. Remeber Piggy has four roles already.
And a dash of creativity labeled c and viola! I think we have it. But back to topic...
I am guessing OZ will be bad, but i guess i will have to wait and see.
It seems very Disney from the trailer. I gotta feeling even though it was in the works before the sale. It will be noticible that Disney had their fingers in it. But I'm in the wrong forum for that.
What were we discussing?
LoL. Something about Bad Muppet Movies.
My vote is still IAVMMC, but I still say OZ looks dumb, and will be a flop. Not to mention the fact that i do not know what Disney has been doing lately but the last few animated films have kind of stunk. Trying to give us part 2's to every Disney adventure like the Jungle Book 2.....Give me a break. John Goodman is no Balue the Bear.
Personally, I liked the direction they were shooting for in VMC... a little darker and edgier... just not exactly how they did it. But then to go back to the 90's style of movies being retellings of books always seemed to not bode well. Plus without Jerry Juhl's writing.... at least there were a few sly jokes in them... I mean, MCC... Statler and Waldorf being Jacob and Robert Marely... Bob Marley. This movie... other than the Quentin Terrintino cameo....I don't think it'll be that good. So without even seeing it, Muppets of Oz... PLLLPT! Worst one, definately.
At least with the Mupet-Reality-What-the-Heck-is-This-Thig we have no details, so can't critizice it (much) until we se it.
Yeah i red about that reality program as well. I would love to be on the show buttotally am not ready. But it woyld really be great if the show kept running and they got there new tallent that way because at least we would all have some kind of shot at it that way.
Any way, I was not too impressed in the concept idea for it, but who knows every one else has got a reality show now days why not th emuppets.
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