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Truth commercial: Muppets & smoking

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Vic Romano, May 8, 2007.

  1. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Ditto. Why smoking organizations even used The Muppets at all--and then would have the gall to say that The Muppets are solely for children--is horrendous.
  2. JJandJanice

    JJandJanice Active Member

    And if you really wanna split hairs The Muppet movie isn't the only "kid" (at least in the mind of the truth people) movie to feature a little, very little, smoking. I was wacthing Ratioutee (I'm sure I didn't spell that right) and I'm pretty sure I saw that one guy who clams he "killed a man with his thumb" have a cigeratte in his hands, Muppets from Space had that guard smoking til Pepe says "smoking is very bad for you okay," and again if you really want to split hairs, there are tons of characters that are smoking tobacco though a pipe, that old guy from Little Merimaid comes to mind, and that came out after the Muppet movie.
  3. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    And Sesame's own Workshop producers condemned Cookie for his Allistair Cookie sketch, don't forget!
  4. Krazedmuppet

    Krazedmuppet Active Member

    The Great Mouse Detective EVERYONE DOES good or bad
  5. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    What does that have to do with anything?
  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Even though smoke does not billow from the pipe at all. He was basically just chomping it... then chomping on it.

    I understand the anti-smoking fervor, but they are clearly trying to blame things that aren't related all the while remaining oblivious to the true problem.

    You know, like everything else in a "kiddy medium."
  7. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    *is reminded now of that huge character crossover that essentially was meant as an anti-drug PSA, Cartoon All-Stars to the Rescue*
  8. unclematt

    unclematt Active Member

    They used the Muppets cause they look at them as a kid company and kid entertainment. They were trying to make an example of the cigarette company not of the Muppets.
  9. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    But in effect, they did just that.
  10. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter New Member

    The fact that in The Great Mouse Detective, pretty much all of the characters smoke, and the fact that someone stated that The Muppet Movie isn't the only supposedly "kids" movie to have smoking in it.
  11. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    True, but TMM was original, whereas TGMD was a nod to Sherlock Holmes.
  12. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter New Member

    Well, technically, The Muppet Movie was a nod to Wizard of Oz, but... :)
  13. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Not really. It may have had some of the premise derived from that film, but TGMD is a verbatum scene for scene representation of Sherlock Holmes.
  14. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter New Member

    Yeah, I know The Muppet Movie isn't really based on Wizard of Oz, there's just similarities.

    The Great Mouse Detective was one of my favorite Disney movies, by the way.
  15. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Ah. Thanks for the clarification.
  16. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    It syncs up even better than Dark Side of the Moon! Wocka Wocka!

    Anyway, there is a thread just like this in the General Discussion area, about cartoons not being able to smoke anymore, including re-editing old cartoons to reflect that.

    And what hooey that is. Why should everything be censored from reality just to please a small percentage? I'm not talking hard core pron or anything like that... but people smoke, people drink, people gamble. Why not portray reality accurately? or as accurate as possible? Wouldn't you think some dirty, dusty old roughhouse regular smokes? Of course they would.

    It's as rediculous as having cowboys go to bars where they only serve Milk or sassparilla.

    take a good look at the older cartoons. Cigarettes, gun play, drinking... it's all there. And it adds depth. Not saying anything needs this, but to condemn it for existing is rediculous.

    Especially that new rule about smoking not being in any movie that isn't PG 13 and up. Redunkulous.
  17. Krazedmuppet

    Krazedmuppet Active Member

    Thanks SS ;)
    As he said, that movie came out in the late 80‘s, after TMM, and was a Disney movie. This is also one of my favorite Disney movies, but rip off or not, this was more of a childrens movie that TMM. Look up the clip from that movie “let me be good to you” and you'll see. I was surprised they put this movie to DVD because it had all that and the ban now on cartoon characters smoking, wonder if they edited it out... anyone know? (they cant even show the cartoon Camel mascot from Marbro anymore)
  18. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

  19. Krazedmuppet

    Krazedmuppet Active Member

  20. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Actually there was a rumor that The Muppet Movie syncs up with Nirvana's Nevermind album. Take that as you will. I've never done it and don't really see it. Who knows? :cool:

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