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Discussion in 'Henson Alternative' started by TheMonsterAteMe, Feb 2, 2011.
just watched the clip again...I do quite enjoy it...I do wonder waht may be going through the heads of the audience...like "who are these guys?" "Where's kermit?" and such
I don't know, before I got to my job now and I was going on interviews, they saw I had interned at Henson and the employer actually had not remembered who Jim Henson was. You'd be surprised how many children I've come across who don't know who Kermit is.
I agree they have pushed aside what was their best quality work, but I think it's also because they feel their audiences have changed and need to reinvent themselves. I'm not saying I necessarily AGREE with it, but if that's going to help them get back in the minds of the public again, that's what they gotta do.
We all have our opinions on the state of things of course.
I honestly don't think it's the audience that has changed. Kids have no reason to know who Kermit is. The Muppets projects made in their lifetime have not been up to par to say the least, or particularly successful. And the original projects that were successes are not being shown to them. How many more times will the Muppets try to reinvent themselves only to get ignored yet again before those in charge (whoever they are at the moment) finally admit they are in part creating their own problem? Again, I've never witnessed a franchise that so stubbornly sticks with a plan that's clearly not working.
We all know who to thank for that, don't we?
A mixture of Disney and Henson itself.
I think the audience has changed. I honestly don't think people appreciate old fashioned humor anymore. If it's not "hip" in today's eyes, it's considered lame. I don't think that way, but I have become very disenchanted with recent Muppet projects and I'm probably in the minority that I don't have very high hopes for the upcoming film and am not excited about it. I'd rather watch old stuff than new.
However, people like different stuff now, so to me, that's who they're going after. I guess I'd rather see the Muppets in not so interesting stuff than not at all....
I feel like I always make this same statement, but I guess I'll have to make it again.
I feel like we're generalizing here. Yes, it's fair to say, the greater majority of people my age or younger don't understand, appreciate, or like old fashioned humor. However, there are still younger generations that love old fashioned humor. I have plenty of friends that love the classic Muppets, the original SNL cast, I Love Lucy, The Three Stooges, and such, and I know there are kids out there that feel the same way. Yeah, the younger generations nowadays tend to suck, but I feel that their bad rep isn't totally well deserved.
It's always the same bit, the kids who are into the newer stuff are simply louder and more assertive because they have popularity on their side. It's safe to like what they like. While the kids who like older entertainment don't have that safety net and so they appear to be in a small minority.
In middle school I was always given the impression I was only person in the world who liked the Beatles. But it turned out some of the kids in my class actually did like them, but they just kep it to themselves, heh.
I'm not saying younger generations suck, and you're right plenty of younger people like older stuff, but I think the general public doesn't, or they think it's corny. And Disney/Henson nowadays seem to think so and that's why they're trying to steer the Muppets in a different direction.
But see, that's the problem. Why hide something like that? I always proudly emphasized what I was into whether it was old Garfield comic strips to the Beatles, to the Rocky Horror Picture Show. All things that most kids my age back in school weren't into at the time or if they were tried to act "too cool for the room".
Well my school was particularly infamous for its cliques and bullying, it was not a friendly place for individual points of view, even among the teachers, hehe.
That's very sad, heralde, but couldn't that be said about just any school? Mine was as well.
Oh I'm sure it is. It's just that we were a very small group, the same people every year, if you didn't get along with them there wasn't anyone else. I didn't hide what I liked and I was always an outcast, lol.
Yeah, that's unfortunately a large fact in the reason why older, not as "cool" things aren't more popular. If the popular kids deem it "uncool" then kids wont bother mentioning it. Lucky for me I had a good group of friends growing up, so when we discovered things we adored (LotR, Newsies, X-men, Twin Peaks, etc.) and we'd run around the playground shouting our love of said things, we may have gotten weird looks and gotten called names, but we had each other and that's all that mattered. I'm also blessed to have gone to a single gendered school. Yeah, there were cliques, but no one clique was really more popular than the others, so no one really cared what the other cliques were into.
I just wish bullying wasn't such an issue. Kids should be able to voice/express whatever it is they love.
Whoa - your friends and you were into Twin Peaks (and you're only 20 now?) That's amazing! How long ago was that? That's so cool that TP still garners new fans! (One of my all time fave tv shows)
We were in the eighth grade, so I was thirteen at the time. I actually haven't watched Twin Peaks in years... I should really rewatch all of it. We thought it was the coolest thing ever when we were youngings.
i can't wait to see it!
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