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The Fanfic Research Thread

Discussion in 'Fan Fiction' started by Slackbot, Feb 5, 2012.

  1. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    I think the fact that Jim Henson played Rowlf hurt him from forming any real "partnerships" with any other characters, since Kermit was always going to be the focal point of the project and therefore get Jim's attention and make it easier to develop dynamics with other characters. But to try and answer your question better, I Hope That Something Better Comes Along shows that Rowlf and Kermit are certainly good friends.
  2. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    I had thought of Kermit and Rowlf, unfortunately we never really get to see that relationship fleshed out on screen. We can only assume. But then, Kermit is pretty much friends with everyone, so it wouldn't be surprising if they did have a strong friendship.

    One more question: Does anyone know of any clues as to where the Muppet Boarding House in MFS was supposed to be located in the movie?
  3. Vincent Liu

    Vincent Liu Well-Known Member

    In that case, the Muppet Wiki can be quiet useful.
  4. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    I knew where they were filmed, but I wanted to know if there were any clues in MFS as to where the Boarding House was supposed to be in that movie.
  5. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    If you mean anything like an address, I think it was #33 Bronson Lane.
  6. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    Thanks...that is helpful.
  7. TogetherAgain

    TogetherAgain Well-Known Member

    Regarding Rowlf's friendships, he did tend to get paired up with Fozzie for musical performances, like English Country Garden or "An Actor's Life for Me." He got paired with some others, too--Miss Piggy, Sam, Zoot... but, while I don't know exact numbers off-hand, I think he was most commonly paired with Fozzie.

    Or, y'know, his bust of Beethoven...
  8. Ruahnna

    Ruahnna Well-Known Member

    Well, it was obvious in a couple of the piano sketches that Rowlf and Piggy have a good working friendship based on their mutual talent. Rowlf was a big appreciator of women in general, and when Piggy was bringing home a torch song, Rowlf was happy witness it. Also, I always felt there was a sort of musicians meeting-of-the-minds with Rowlf and the Mayhem. Again, mutual respect and talent.
  9. WebMistressGina

    WebMistressGina Well-Known Member

    I second that. At least show wise, Rowlf seemed to be paired up with Fozzie, Piggy, and the Mayhem a lot. As Aunt Ru mentioned, many of Piggy's torch songs and piano pieces were always done by Rowlf, while he and Fozzie seemed to have a good relationship which I think works personality wise.

    I always thought that he and Dr. Teeth would be pretty tight, being pianist and all, and obviously I think Rowlf, Piggy, and Janice get along well cause of their Vet's Hospital sketches. In fact, many of the jazz standards were usually done with Rolwf playing piano, which of course is interesting as, technically Dr. Teeth does play piano; I mean, a keyboard is just a electric/portable version of one.

    But with that said, I think you'll find that every author has their own preference in regards to characters and friendship - for example, I think Piggy and Floyd (and Gonzo) have a frienemy relationship with each other. No proof, I just happen to like that idea.
  10. Ruahnna

    Ruahnna Well-Known Member

    You didn't imagine it or make it up--it was well-documented in TMS. Floyd is always making cracks about Piggy, and he hated Foo Foo. I can soooo see her ankle-biting him just to watch him look his "cool." In the Tony Randall episode, when Piggy has accidentally been turned into a stone statue, Floyd goes so far as to light a match off of Piggy's petrified backside--this was after he made joke after joke about her while she was "statue-fied" and couldn't doing anything about it. In one ep, he put Foo Foo in a drawer. So the feud was definitely established in TMS.
  11. WebMistressGina

    WebMistressGina Well-Known Member

    I remembered the one where he was supposed to watch Foo Foo and put the dog in the drawer, which in itself is weird cause of everyone to ask, she asks the one person who makes a point of ragging on her.

    I think there's friendship there, just a rivarly taken to new heights; I think it was...Miss Kermie (?) who thought it weird that I had Floyd side with Piggy in the Team Kermit vs Team Piggy debate, but I thought it makes sense. Kermit's his friend, but Piggy's his ongoing opponent.

    It's something I have planned to explore in one of the adventures.
  12. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Well, if nothing else, Floyd does at least respect Piggy, he was part of the group with :concern:, :sympathy:, :concern:, :o, and ;) who sang Auld Lang Zyne in her honor after Kermit fired her in the Loretta Swift episode.

    And Gina, is your fic asleep/dead? :p: Poke poke poke poke poke.
  13. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    That's what I think is great about writing fanfic; authors can experiment with different Muppet friendships and use ones that really couldn't be shown in the show because of having the same performers (Piggy and Fozzie, Rowlf and Kermit, Rowlf and Dr. Teeth, Scooter and and Janice, etc.). So Hubert if you are still reading this, don't be afraid to try different ideas for what characters you want to be great friends.
  14. WebMistressGina

    WebMistressGina Well-Known Member

    True, but they also did a parody of that once she was out of earshot.

    As for fic, I was all set to work on it, but then I got an idea for 6 Ball and was gonna work on that and then I got a piece of oatmeal stuck in the hole where my wisdom tooth used to be, which meant that my panic level went from 0 to 11+ in about five minutes.

    I've been told not to worry about it, that it'll come out eventually and if not, I'll get antibiotics for the infection that this will most likely cause. And at this point, I'm clearly being a hypochondriac, but I don't care. This hurts. I don't like hurting.

    But, with any luck I'll go fill my prescripts during lunch and will have them by the time I leave work, which therefore means something will be written and/or updated tonight.

    Definitely agreed.

    Case in point, my mind thinks that Piggy and Scooter are much closer than people give them credit for. This is also a bit where Aunt Ru's KG comes into play, but the thought was initially there and then reading her take certainly made me go, "then I'm not the only one!"

    If anyone would issues on friendship, I think it would be Piggy because she has been publicly adamant that the Muppets are Kermit's friends and not hers and in some cases, she does treat them with indifference, but there are cases when she shows that she genuinely cares about the people she works with.

    Conf. call, gotta go!
  15. TheWeirdoGirl

    TheWeirdoGirl Well-Known Member

    I'm working on a little story of my own, and it would help me if I could know an approximate date of when The Muppet Movie started filming. I've been looking around on the internet, and the closest I've gotten is sometime in 1978. But it would be nice if I could know at least the month. Can anyone help me?
  16. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    In any Muppet production, from movies to TV shows to books to even Muppet Babies, have any Muppets been shown to have skills in drawing? Or drawing at all, regardless of skill? In the next chapter of my story, Piggy's going to work with a Muppet to draw her idea for a set-piece. I have a Muppet in mind to use, but I'd like to see if there's something from a production I can use first.
  17. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    In Muppet Babies the characters sometimes draw. In one episode they all make flipbooks. They've been known to draw in the air with Scooter's light pen, and in one episode they even made an art museum in the nursery.

    And if you want to include the SST Muppets, Big Bird is a remarkably good caricaturist for a six-year-old. :wisdom:
  18. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    Thanks! I was planning on using a Muppet from Muppet Babies as the artist, so looks like I can proceed in that direction.
  19. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    Then check out The Muppet Museum of Art. It's up on Youtube, along with every other MB episode, last time I checked. Gonzo is actually a pretty darn good artist when he's motivated.
  20. mostlikemokey

    mostlikemokey Active Member

    OK guys. I got one for ya. Do female Muppet frogs have hair?


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