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Sesame Street Encyclopedia Update

Discussion in 'On the Web' started by Thijs, Feb 27, 2003.

  1. Thijs

    Thijs Well-Known Member

    We are not finished with those characters yet.
  2. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Well-Known Member


    We want Little Red Riding Hood and the Three Pigs on the site, Hopefully they will be on there soon !

    The Big Bad Wolf, as far as i know has been those different colors. But i think that he was the same character the whole way through, Even with those color changes.
    We have the current Big Bad Wolf on the site right now !

    see ya
  3. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    OK then, here's a few questions about the character of the Big Bad Wolf and subsequent wolves on Sesame that I hope you can answer.
    1 Is the Big Bad Wolf from the Big Wolf Family a distinctive character that should be counted in any Sesame character listings?
    2 Just who is the current big bad wolf on Sesame and how does this wolf differ from the one from the Big Wolf Family?
    3 Are the Medium-Sized Green and Medium-Sized Lavender wolves different characters from the Big Bad Wolf and should they both be counted in any Sesame character listings?
    4 How does the big bad wolf from Sesame differ from the Wolf from TMS?
    If there are any more wolves in my listing that I have doubts on, I'll ask again. But for now I'll appreciate any help you can provide regarding the questions above. Thanks for your help and have a good day.
  4. ssetta

    ssetta Well-Known Member

    I think usually if they have a wolf, it's the lavendar one. They have used him a lot lately, and they don't want kids to get confused. But they always use different muppets for Old MacDonald. Wouldn't that be confusing for little kids?
  5. mikealan

    mikealan Well-Known Member

    I know a the years and seasons and sometimes facts of these characters we now have online:

    Years: 1970-1988
    Seasons: 2-19

    Fact: Little Bird disappeared from Sesame Street in the late 1980's, because nobody liked her.

    Years: 1970-?
    Seasons: 2-?

    Hope these work.
  6. mikealan

    mikealan Well-Known Member

    Good news, everyone!

    Pic of Ernestine added and the bio of Genie added.

    Now, I will write a bio about Ernestine.


    Ernestine is Ernie's baby niece. She always laugh like Ernie. She appeared on skits including Same & Different with Ernie and the one where Ernie teaches her to say "Ernie", but she doesn't want to say it. She is baby-sitted by Big Bird and Gina on the video, "The Best of Ernie & Bert". In 1997, she appeared with Baby Natasha where she is the telephone operator. In 2003, she looks a lot different on the second season of 'Play With Me Sesame'.

    Hope this bio works.
  7. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Mikealan's description of how the character of Ernestine is OK for her encyclopedia entry...
    But it's missing a physical description of what the character actually looks like and differentiation between what the character of Ernestine looked like originally and her newer counterpart for Season 2 of Play With Me Sesame! Hope this helps and have a good day.
  8. ssetta

    ssetta Well-Known Member

    The Ernestine that was the telephone operator is completely different than Baby Ernestine. She was a human, not a muppet.
  9. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Yes, thought that was the case. Was just waiting to see if someone with the visual reference/memories could back it up. This character of Ernestine the Telephone Operator is a long standing recurring character of Lily Tomlin, a close friend of Sesame Street the show. You may remember her other recurring character appearing in a few segments from the early 80's, the little girl named Edith Anne who sat in an oversized rocking chair. Hope this helps and have a good day.
  10. Thijs

    Thijs Well-Known Member

    Mikealan, it is clear that you have a big knowledge of Sesame Street, and I appreciate your help, but I suggest you take a look at the bio's that are currently on the site. I'm sure you can do much better then this. But thanks for your help. I'll add the info when I have enough material to write about her.
  11. mikealan

    mikealan Well-Known Member

    Here are more pics of the ss muppets we haven't updated yet for the encyclopedia:

    The Honkers
    The Beautiful Princess
    Mary & Mary's Lamb (from SS Newsflash: Mary Had A Little Lamb)
    Alice (from SS Newsflash: Alice In Wonderland)
    The Shoemaker and the Elves (from SS Newsflash: The Elves & the Shoemaker)
    Lulu (the purple monster version)
    Red Riding Hood, Wolf and Grandmother (from SS Newsflash: Little Red Riding Hood)
    Tiny Thumblina (from SS Newsflash: Mumford's Newsflash Trick)

    and a few more!

    I checked out the Henson Database that there are no pics of the 'F' Cheerleader muppets and Roscoe the Grouch

    BTW, the 'F' Cheerleading sketch can be shown on one of the Sesame Too shows from 2000 on Noggin where Telly tries to cooperate his hands and we definately need Roscoe the Grouch. We have to post pictures of them!
  12. Thijs

    Thijs Well-Known Member


    BlueFrackle and I, makers of the SSEncyclopedia, have a list of all the SS characters from the Muppet Masterlist, made by Count. So you don't have to tell us wich characters are missing. We know, ok. I say it for the last time: we only add a character if we have a decent picture of it. And I get the feeling that you have never been on the site, because Roscoe the Grouch is already on the site, since 2, 3 months ago.
  13. mikealan

    mikealan Well-Known Member

    Err...not Roscoe the Grouch, I mean, Felix the Grouch! You've never posted the picture of Felix the Grouch for a couple of months ago! He's on one of the 123 Sesame shows from 2000 that was shown on Noggin.
  14. ssetta

    ssetta Well-Known Member

    It was shown on Noggin, and it still is.
  15. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    A few things I'd like to ask/tell Tommy and the planners of the Sesame Street Encyclopedia.

    1 You say that you're using my listing as a guide for your site's future updates? Glad to know that I'm of help to someone else.
    Keep an eye out for future updated versions of my listing with character/roles from all the movies and TV specials.

    2 Tommy, you posted in one of my list's previous versions that you saw a sketch on Sesame Street with the Count's family. You reported watching the episode on August 3, 2003. Which episode was it? Was it one of the two episodes shown on Noggin?
    FYI: These two episodes where an earlier episode where Elmo, Snuffy, Big Bird and Prairie Dawn spoof Little Jerry and the Monotones by forming a mock-up band of their own; and a later episode where Linda keeps E-mailing Telly leading him to guess her as his "Mystery Friend."
    If you can, please give me a brief synopsis of the plot from the episode so that I can be on the lookout and confirm these characters for myself. If it's an episode that's not shown on Noggin any longer, then please describe what each of the Count's family members looked like to credit your help towards the growth of my master list.
    Thanks for your help and have a great night.
  16. Thijs

    Thijs Well-Known Member

    Remember that I live in the Netherlands, where they still show old skits.

    The count went on vacation and said goodbey to his family members. First his mom, then his dad, then his sister and his brother, and then a bunch of animals (wich all had dracula-teeth:)), among them a cow and a sheep. If I have the time I'll check how they look like. But I can't give you colours because I'm colourblind.
  17. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Thanks for your help Tommy. Don't worry about the colors of the characters, as long as you give the description your best effort that's what rully counts. As for the episode in question, was there anything else significant that happened as part of its plot? Was there any interacting story taking place on the street itself? And if so, what was it? If you know it, what was this episode's number? Just checking to see if any other board members have it on tape and could trade for it. Thanks for your help again, and have a good day.
  18. Thijs

    Thijs Well-Known Member

    ok, i'll do my best

    about the episode, in the Netherlands Sesame Street goes like this:

    every day they have a theme, this one was about vacation I thought.

    first they show a dutch skit, with the dutch humans, and charachters like Tommie and Pino. then they show a mix of skits wich are about that theme. those skits are one, two or three american skits, one or two cartoons, another dutch skit and lots of other things.

    The American skits are choosen if they have something to do with the theme. They have nothing to do with each other. So I can't give you any other information about it.

    greetings, Thijs a.k.a. Tommie
  19. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    So Tommy, you're saying that the sketch with the Count's family was an American original? My memory stored a sketch where the Count's mother tries to tuck in a baby Count into his crib and get him to sleep, but I've never seen any sketches with his whole family. If you can, please help describing what the other characters looked like with more distinguishing details, and I'll credit your finds just like the ones by everybody else. Thanks for your help and have a good day.
  20. mikealan

    mikealan Well-Known Member

    Guess what!

    Pic of Curly Bear added and bio of Zoe are added on line!

    Last night, I watched the copy of an Unpaved episode from 1989 on tape that has the Season 4 Premiere, and it had the Kermit the Reporter skit of Humpty Dumpty!
    When I was a little kid, I didn't like it, because Gladys (before she had a name) making horse sounds, which it bugs me, and Humpty Dumpty broken in pieces scared me a little. Now, I enjoyed this skit and Humpty Dumpty never scared me so much, and I believe he was performed by Frank Oz, this skit was just before the really scary vintage live-action sketch with the red-hot 'I'!

    I have a pic of Humpty Dumpty in the Unpaved book. Actually, there are two different Humpty Dumptys on SS:

    The first one was the big one for the Sesame Street News skit, which he was played by Frank Oz. And the second one was the small one, which he was played by Jerry Nelson on the Season 24 episode sponsored by the letters L and R and the number 18.

    I know much of the Sesame Street version of Humpty Dumpty for the encyclopedia:

    Seasons: 8, 24

    Years: 1976, 1993

    Performers: Frank Oz (1976), Jerry Nelson (1993)

    Description: Humpty Dumpty was a hard-boiled, tough egg. In the episode of Sesame Street News, he had a major accident, so the king's horses and men Muppets tried to put Humpty together again...and they did. Kermit, of course, talked to Humpty for a while that Humpty was a brand-new person. Then Kermit slaps Humpty's back to fall off the wall and the king's horses and men had to put him together again. They think Kermit did slap Humpty off the wall. On the street in 1993, the little Humpty Dumpty was fallen off Oscar's can and was broken by Big Bird sitting on him in his nest.

    Hope everything on Sesame Street's version of Humpty Dumpty would work.

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