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One thing that annoyed me in "The Muppets"

Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by SSLFan, Aug 19, 2012.

  1. dwmckim

    dwmckim Well-Known Member

    I never really noticed the billboard and it doesn't bother me being in there for a coupla reasons...

    (1) no one's yet mentioned it may have been worked in there as the filmmakers' way of saying "thank you" to Pixar with their help assisting them with the pre-production going-over-the-script.

    (2) I actually DO like product placement WHEN (and only when) it's well done...meaning it makes things more realistic that it's there since modern society is very brand-oriented. I'd rather see a REAL can of Coke than a generic soda can or a box of Corn Flakes on a table rather than an a fake box that draws more attention to the fact that it's there specifically to NOT be a recognizable cereal. Hollywood is very much a "character" in this film - and Hollywood (as well as most places) have movie billboards all over. If they're part of the background fleshing out the world , i have zero problem with this. Now if the camera lingers on it or all of a sudden characters start an extended sequence about how they enjoy the product, THAT'S stepping over the line. But otherwise, generally speaking if non-intrusive product placement brings some more funding to allow a product to get made and it's in the background in a subtle true-to-life manner, i applaud it.

    As for "Me Party" (and speaking as one of the apparently few people who quite liked it), it was better that Piggy and Mary were singing it "together but seperately" not directly interacting - that was the whole point of the song - being left alone and choosing to not let it be a bad thing or get you down...i relate to that FAR more easier than Life's a Happy Song.
  2. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Hey I loved Me Party but I still stand by they should've sang it together. Not in separate scenes. But it was still good. As for the billboard I don't really care anymore. Never really did. My attention was wayyyyyy more focused on the movie.
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  3. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I can't tell you how much I hate seeing boxes of"Ouisp" with a human nose on Quisp, or bags of "Let's" chips. I always thought to myself, seeing products in a show makes it cheap... but the bland name fakers make it look far more like a cartoon and completely unrealistic. No one wants that, especially with sitcoms.

    Really... "Let's" potato chips. Even 3rd Rock from the Sun had the decency to have a Lays bag with a large "SALE" sticker covering up 75% of the name. At least that gives the illusion that they're not trying to look fake.


    Mac and Me. That is all.
  4. miss kermie

    miss kermie Well-Known Member

    They need more muppets anyway, billboard or not.
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  5. conburke621

    conburke621 New Member

    Even though I'm a HUGE Pixar fan, the billboard annoyed me. So what if the DVD was coming out around that time? You know what other Disney movie came out on DVD around when The Muppets came out? Winnie The Pooh! In my opinion, Winnie the Pooh is a lot more Muppety than Cars 2, I would have seriously loved to see that poster. Or seriously, why not a simple poster for "Punch Teacher" or maybe even the Jack Black movie that he was in the middle of making when he got kidnapped? So many options, but they had to go with Cars 2.
  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Listen to me... watch ANY movie made in the past 5 years by Universal.

    You'll be saying "Billboard? What Billboard?"
  7. miss kermie

    miss kermie Well-Known Member

    I'm watching the muppets now.


    I hate how they make it sound like no one at all likes them.
  8. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    They did something similar with that Rocky and Bullwinkle movie in 2000: not so much that nobody liked them anymore, but rather, it's been so long since they had been on television, let alone been relevant to modern pop culture, that they were pretty much forgotten.
  9. CaseytheMuppet

    CaseytheMuppet Well-Known Member

    Think about it though. Would your friends and peers say, "Oh, the Muppets are so cool, dude!" They weren't that off.
  10. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Yeah I have to agree. Though to an extent, this movie changed that.
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  11. miss kermie

    miss kermie Well-Known Member

    .
    nooooooo...
  12. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Actually it was more like no one really cared. They were still on television, but the residual checks kept getting smaller.

    In context of the movie The Muppets, it seems to work well. It's not so much they were hated, so much that the fair weather fans, while they still love them, forgot they were around. Quite honestly, the actual movie proved that. There was a fanbase, but it was long dormant.
  13. CaseytheMuppet

    CaseytheMuppet Well-Known Member

    Yes, hopefully it did. :fanatic:
  14. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    I don't think I was bothered by the billboard, I figure since it's Disney they might sneak some adverts of their other work in there from time to time I guess. Troma does the same thing. But yeah, I can see how that can be irritating. Though in The Muppets, the fart shoes thing still makes me shiver. As well as Frank saying the movie was a little too safe, I think I can probably agree to that. I liked the new movie, I end up singing "Life's a happy song" at least one a week to myself when ever I'm in a good mood. lol But yeah, I prefer the classics personally. :)
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  15. Janice+Floyd<3

    Janice+Floyd<3 Well-Known Member

    That janice wasn't as involved and didn't have many speaking lines
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  16. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Except "Fer sure" and "Wow, like she sure hasn't changed much".
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  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry, but "X didn't have any speaking lines" is BULL! It's obnoxious fan nitpicking, and we should at least be thankful we even got that one line out of X character.

    Remember when Dr. Teeth said "Shalom" in MFS and it was the greatest thing ever? Or same movie when Scooter was selling T-shirts? That was the most we've seen of those character since the last Henson project before he died. The fact they were even in that movie, let alone The Muppets, was amazing.

    Here's the deal. The film had way too many Muppets in it. And for each of them to get a big moment of glory would have killed any semblance of story. I mean, they shoved enough in a 90 minute film as it is. Yes, it would have been awesome for the Mayhem to have a song all to itself, the first one since "You can't Take No for an Answer" (unless you count the mostly instrumental Nap Time from MWO)... but they didn't even have time to have the 30 seconds of plot reveal in the villain's song.

    Meanwhile, Link Hogthrob gets his first major speaking (well, singing) sequence in a movie ever. Where's the appreciation for that? Let alone Wayne and Wanda's make out session. Characters that haven't been seen (not counting the comics) since The Muppet Show.
  18. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    I agree with you. Films aren't made with 'who gets what/how many lines' in mind. Everything is there to serve the greater story. My criticism is that there were opportunities to weave the Mayhem into the picture and they decided against it. I still say that that the "We Built This City" segment should have been performed by the Mayhem. I understand the excuses that some say about it; that the group wasn't totally back together yet. Hogwash! Maybe it could have started as sticking a cassette into a boom box (very 80's) and then movie magic could have taken over.

    I still love the film anyway.
  19. robodog

    robodog Active Member

    I've seen the movie several times now and I've never seen the Cars billboard. I'm sure it would have annoyed me if I had though. The Cars characters don't even deserve to be on the same planet as the Muppets, let alone appear in the same movie. Even if that appearance was only on a billboard.
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  20. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'll say this again... The Cars billboard is a million times better than the other billboard that would have been in the movie. A movie people like even less than Cars 2.

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