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Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by danielromens, Aug 1, 2002.

  1. danielromens

    danielromens Member

    So I'm thinking again, bored in my office, checking out the forum as I often do, and I run across newscorp. You know, maybe these guys are good for the Muppets.

    Also the timing could be perfect. This next season is supposed to be the final season of the Simpsons. We need something to replace it's quirk. I think the Muppets would be great.

    just a thought.
  2. scarecroe

    scarecroe Active Member

    I just read an interview with Matt Groening from about a week ago where he said they had no plans to stop doing to show anytime in the foreseeable future. Did he change his mind already?

    So who's this "newscorp" anyway? What do they own; what do they do?
  3. grail

    grail New Member

    no, the interview you read was the most up to date, but the word hasn't really gotten out yet. originally this next season was suposed to be the last, but that's no longer the case.

    newscorp, i believe is the parent company to Fox, Fox Films, etc...but they do have the most boring name this side of "Michael"
  4. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    I think Fox wants to keep Simpsons going as much as anyone else because they are still raking in the money. Matt will agree because he no longer has Futurama to fall back on.
  5. Thog

    Thog New Member

    Even though Futurama may not be back on FOX, watch out for new Futurama stuff. He dosn't plan on letting it die.

    Dan
  6. radionate

    radionate New Member

    OK, please tell me the Simpsons isn't going bye bye this next season. Every report I heard said it was going to run at least two more years. This is one of the best shows on TV, it can't die. Matt said he'd keep it going awhile longer. How credible are these news stories?
  7. the_great_gonzo

    the_great_gonzo New Member

    if i can remember right, all the actors on The Simpsons have a contract for up to the 15th season, which is still like 2 more years. Also after that they have an agreement saying that they will make 2 Simpsons movies.
  8. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    >>>OK, please tell me the Simpsons isn't going bye bye this next season. Every report I heard said it was going to run at least two more years. This is one of the best shows on TV, it can't die. Matt said he'd keep it going awhile longer. How credible are these news stories?<<<

    Admittedly while the simpsons keeps geeting crepier and creepier, it is an american institution...and like SNL...this could run on for quite some time. However, it still puzzles me how Simpsons forums have infinite more members than a Muppets forum. oh well...
  9. murgatoad

    murgatoad New Member

    IMO, Mr. Groening needs to work on making people give a **** about his characters. Every time I've attempted to watch "Futurama", I've gotten this "so what" feeling no matter what dire peril Fry and Leela and whoever are in. That's because all the characters ever do is dispense one-liners, and it doesn't matter terribly much who utters what. The cast has exactly three character quirks between them: Leela is the usual Groening long-suffering mommy type. Fry is a shallow twit. Bender's a self-centered *sshole. That's about it. The rest of the characters are ciphers. The cast of the excruciating "Family Guy" has more compelling characters than "Futurama", which is a pity, because of the two "Futurama" has a far more interesting premise.
  10. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    murgatoad:

    ture, but futurama does have that cool 3d effect sometimes. but yeah, futurama is a bit more glib...I mean frye and bender are so apathetic the whole planet could blow up and theyd just complain about lack of beer.

    In 1999 futurama seemed so promising, but even Simpsons' most hardcore fans are yawning at it.
  11. Ernie101

    Ernie101 Active Member

    ima huge simpsons fan i have all the season dvds.No it will not be stopping and im glad id rather have simpsons than muppets sorry but its whats keeping fox up and muppet doesnt have a good chance there.
  12. Ernie101

    Ernie101 Active Member

    whats the link to the big sompson message board beaker?

    Id love it!
  13. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    I think the idea of Futurama was a good one for a one off TV show or animation movie but its too restrictive an idea to work on a season per season basis. There's only so much those characters can do without it all being too similar to the last episode and they aren't endearing to people. To be honest, while Matt's a god for creating the Simpsons i think he is pretty much a 'one trick pony' - it was a fluke and he'll never top it.
  14. murgatoad

    murgatoad New Member

    I wonder if "Futurama" wouldn't have been more interesting had Fry and Co., say, been at war with an evil alien menace or whatnot. Every episode could then show the progress of that war, in a comic way, of course. Then at least the show could have been *about* something. As it is, I feel I could miss an ep and big deal. Not the way TV execs want viewers to feel, needless to say.

    As for your "one trick pony" comment, I'd say you're right. Remember "The Critic"? The main character, while cleverly designed to look like Siskel and Ebert's love child, had the basic personality of Fry/Homer Simpson/Bender. Yet another lazy, greedy, orally-fixated male. If the show had been a sharper critique on Hollywood and moviemaking, I think it might have survived. But once again, as is the case with "Futurama", the show consisted of nothing but one-liners. I did love Jon Lovitz's voice work, however. I hope he does more such work in the future, perhaps in a Disney flick...
  15. FellowWLover

    FellowWLover Member

    Sorry, but....

    ... The Critic rocked. My take? The American TV-watching public was not smart enough to "get it". Shame, really.
  16. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    Yeah i liked 'The Critic' - each episode wasn't always as sharp as the last but it did indeed rock, very much a show geared to a cult fanbase though.
  17. Thog

    Thog New Member

    Re: Sorry, but....

    I loved the Critic, and Family Guy was also awsome. But I'm guessing that most people here didn't like the humor on Family Guy.
  18. FellowWLover

    FellowWLover Member

    I did like Family Guy, but for some reason it wasn't "must-see TV" for me. I am not sure why. I think because they moved it around a lot, and it was hard to get into a routine with. BTW, you know who *loved* Family Guy? JOSH! haha
  19. radionate

    radionate New Member

    I really think Futurama had a promising outlook, but it just never panned out. I for one love it, but never get to see it often as I'm working when it is on. I found the writing sharp, but the characters do fizzle, I'll give you that. And I agree that Matt will never top the Simpsons, that would be impossible.

    The Critic though, that was an incredible show. The critics also adored it. That's the problem with Hollywood "insider" shows, Hollywood, the critics, and hard core hollywood fans love them, but the rest of middle america is lost, as are the ratings.
  20. murgatoad

    murgatoad New Member

    Re: Sorry, but....

    Well, speaking for myself, I think I "got it". It just wasn't very involving or entertaining IMO.


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