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Fun-4-All may produce Sesame Street Action Figures

Discussion in 'Sesame Merchandise' started by pdiresta, Oct 27, 2003.

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  1. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    Ok, so why aren't the Muppets figures selling as well as they could be then? You have 14 points of articulation, slews of accessories and the price isn't all that crippling in the states. They are all mostly classic household name recognisable characters except the few obscures we have seen. It would be exactly the same with Sesame, except Sesame is even more of a kids license. Face facts, Fun4All depend even more on greater sales than Palisades do, and even though they don't invest as much money into the products they throw more money at the licenses and getting all of the major bricks and mortar stores to carry their products. They aren't as specialist an action figure company as Palisades and don't specifically cater to the adult market. The only reason they bought the Sesame license was because they knew kids would buy the figures too, the adults are just a nice bonus. They aren't interested in just selling to adults as there isn't enough profit in it for a big company like them and seeing as the figures were already shown to adult comic stores through Diamond Distribution they probably found out for sure the adult market wasn't strong enough by itself and if thats all the interest they got they'd probably have to end the line at wave two. In my opinion it would be very tricky to do the whole high quality, slew of accessories, loads of articulation thing for adults yet get the figures stocked in kids stores retailing at a price acceptable to parents too.

    Quality costs money, which parents of a 5 year old generally wouldn't pay or even neccasarily want/need for their kids who just want a toy to play with so they have obviously had to make compromises right from the start. That's meant people here complaining that they aren't upto the quality of the Palisades Muppets and Fun4All getting negative reactions (which they are partly to blame for themselves i admit) but these are being made for a fairly different market than the Muppets are right now. It has to be that way and probably will not change despite what people say, they have just spent a long time trying to reach a compromise level in design where they aren't too shabby for adults yet are still within the reach of the kids market.
  2. LadyVader

    LadyVader New Member

    Ok I don't know how muppet sales are in the U.K. But where I am from Palisades Muppet figures fly off the shelves they can't keep them in stock. and if I wasn't clear it has been 35 years and not even once has the older fan of sesame street been thought of. and as for price take a walk thoue a toys R us action figures department Action figures aren't cheep they can go as high as $10.95 depening on what your looking for the lowest price figure is a Star Wars figure at $4.77 but that going to change there price will be going up with the new wave and this is comeing from Hasbro themselves. When parents buy they don't look around the toy store they go right to what popular like Spiderman, Power Rangers, Shreck, its years since the Muppets had a Movie and a t.v. show. But when your talking Sesame Street what is the frist thing that comes to a kid mind it ELMO not Big Bird not Bert & Ernie Not even Cookie Monster it ELMO, ELMO. the kids at the Sesame Street age range don't care what they play with its the parents who do the buying and ELMO, ELMO, ELMO is the only thing they hear then I the USA the hottest toy at Christmass time for the last 3 years has been Elmo. Now don't getme wrong I like the Dolls and the other thing But really it time we adult fans got something if I am going to pay the price for a better Sesame Street figure shouldn't get it. Hay I even like a Playset or two. As I said before it been 35 years. Hay and since where talking about Action Figures what about Fraggle Rock why dolls I am sick of dolls I want a Gobo Action figure with slew of accessories 14 point articulation or more why can't we get thoues there a market for them and you in the U.K should know this better that any one eles you got the DVD set first we I the USA have to wait. that not fare. and how about the Dark Crystal no action figures for them just busts like we need more busts. so it goes like this for adult fans No Cool Sesame Street Figures for you only dumded down one. No cool Fraggle Rock figures just dolls wwhhooppee! and last but not least Dark Crystal No cool figures for them thet get busted the Muppets are the only Action Figures that are made for the Fans and I guess that the way its going to be.
  3. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    No i meant the USA market. The Muppets might seem to fly off the shelves where you are but that could be due to the stores not actually buying many in or you just being in a particularly good area. From Ken Lillys comments overall it seems they aren't selling as well as they should be in any market, so much so they aren't commiting to carry on past Series 10 until they see the latest sales figures. If the Muppets aren't selling enough to adults then Sesame certainly won't. I understand your points that there should be collectable Sesame figures for adults but it just seems that if the Muppets are anything to go buy there is not enough of an adult market who actually want to by them.
  4. Gonzo

    Gonzo Active Member

    That's changing too...

    Grover, Big Bird, Ernie, Cookie Monster and others are getting much higher profile on Sesame Street...have been for the last few years. As soon as the merchandising catches up with what's actually on the show, I think we'll see more balance in the Force. I mean...in the toy aisles.

    :p :(
  5. WiGgY

    WiGgY New Member

    Yeah, Big Bird and Ernie have their own segment. Then they show a Bert and Ernie skit (some times classic!). Grover has his own thing and he now does the voice over so it is actually his segment. We all know Cookie has his own thing and he gets a street segement now and then. It isn't all Elmo. Some times Elmo isn't een seen until the end for Elmo's World.
  6. LadyVader

    LadyVader New Member

    I give up!

    Ok Ok Ok I Give Up I Can't Seem To Get Any One To At Least Agree With Me Even A Little So I Give Up I Will Just Sit Quiet Here In The Cornner And Deam About My Sesame Street Figures With Slew Of Accessories And Over 14 Points Of Articulation. And Every One Eles Can Have There Kiddie Toys With Very Little Of Any Thing.
  7. WiGgY

    WiGgY New Member

    Are you typing in code? Why is every first letter of every word capitalized? Let's see:

    O O O I G U I C S T G A O T A L A W M E A L S I G U I W J S Q H I T C A D A M S S F W S O A A O P O A A E O E C H T K T W V L O A T

    Does anyone see a code? If you rearange A D A M S you get Sadam. Does his name have 2 d's or one?

    It's not that we don't WANT the fgures you describe. We just know it won't happen. Palisades offered that and the idiots at Sesame Workshop turned them down.
  8. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    I still think they should be the same quality as Palisades, look more like the actual Muppets, whether they have that amount of articulation and accessories or not. Heck, to be honest, I'll forego the accessories to get really good action figures!!!
  9. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    I agree, although Fun4All don't have the same quality sculptors working for them or put so much budget into making the actual figure - the Palisades stuff goes through a lot of stages in production, painting etc. Fun4All probably want to spend more of that money on advertising, point of sales promotion and just spending less to make more profit from the sales. I think thats a big clue as to why the figures have never changed dramatically since we saw the first sculpts despite the feedback. We were really lucky to get the Muppets done by a small specialist company.
  10. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    I'm there wit'cha, brother!

    However, the Fun 4 All figures do look good for what they are, and are better than any prior Sesame Street action figures in the past; and I suppose complaining doesn't help things either since it's already in production, etc.

    I can't wait to see them in person and determine what, if anything, I think of them and to know if I'll be adding this to my collection.

    *Interest builds...*
  11. LadyVader

    LadyVader New Member

    Can Any One Tell Me

    Can some one tell me anything that Fun 4 All has made anything i never heard of them till now at least i can say i heard of Palisades.
  12. ZootandDingo

    ZootandDingo Member

    IIRC, they are the ones behind the "South Park" plush dolls.

  13. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    Fun-4-All also made the Muppet push-up puppets that were released last year. They included: Kermit, Beaker, Animal and Pepe.
  14. WiGgY

    WiGgY New Member

    And they were a total rip off of the Palisades figures.
  15. LadyVader

    LadyVader New Member

    That's it! thats all they have made! You mean to tell me they never done real action figures before. well that tell me a lot. :grouchy:
  16. LadyVader

    LadyVader New Member

    !!!!!!!A Muppet News Flash!!!!!!!

    I just got this off this other Muppet forum I hope it not true:

    "Got this from an industry site:

    NEW YORK — Citing unspecified "developments that negatively impacted the company," toy manufacturer Fun-4-All Corp. has filed a voluntary petition with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for Chapter 11 reorganization protection.
    "This was a difficult decision and a wide range of alternatives were explored before making this choice," said Scott Bachrach, Fun-4-All CEO, in a letter sent to its retail partners and to Playthings this morning. "However, the company determined that reorganization under Chapter 11 was the correct course of action for the long-term future of Fun-4-All Corp."

    Today the court approved an interim cash collateral order with the consent of the toymaker's lenders. While operating under Chapter 11, Fun-4-All expects to achieve "an orderly and timely restructuring of our debt and allow for the current payment of bills."

    "With this assistance in hand, we have the full intention of continuing to move ahead expeditiously," Bachrach asserted.

    Fun-4-All has been best known for arts & crafts products and novelties bearing licenses from the likes of The Wiggles, Crayola, Garfield, Cabbage Patch Kids, Sesame Street and Astro Boy.

    Cripes! - Maybe Palisades could get Sesame - Waddya Think?"

    Well thats not a good sine So much for Bert :( Ernie :p and Oscar the Grouch :grouchy:. So much for sunny days chaseing the clouds away.
  17. pxlforge

    pxlforge New Member

  18. LadyVader

    LadyVader New Member

    Dreams Can Come True

    Here We go kiddes another roller coaster ride throue Sesame Street Action Figure Land. Will Fun-4-All keep them or loose them could Palisades make there move and grab it. it all hangs in the blance. stay tuned to next week when we will hear Big Bird say "Palisades wwwwhhhhoooooPpppppEEEEEE!"
  19. pierat

    pierat New Member

    Sesame delays

    That's a shame!, I wondered why Fun 4 All would never reply to e-mails and couldn't get anything accomplished including their website. Hopefully someone else (Besides palisades) will pick it up. :grouchy:

    Don't get me wrong I like palisades but they wory too much about accessories instead of making the figures more affordable so they could sell to bigger market of buyers including non-die hard fans so more stores would carry their product. and I really don't like paying 10.00 a figure it would be nice if they were closer to 6 or 7 dollars. And Palisades doesn't make the figures very durable for kids lots of fragile pieces like bunsen's glasses, etc.

    I'm a fan but it would be nice if my kids could share in the fun too!

    However picks it up I hope they build a Sesame Playset including the 123 building and hoopers store. (including twiddle bugs) :D
  20. WiGgY

    WiGgY New Member

    Palisades is not a kids toy company. They are a collectors company. They put a lot of care and detial into their product. They put accessories in there because if they didn't they would have just as many people saying thepackages look too empty. And the price has to do with volume. As the volume decreases, the price in creases. It isn't their fault the market can't handle larger volumes and thus lower prices. And I think we would all like lower prices, but look at what they are doing! igh detail and now every figure has a pack in. In some cases a figure has 2 or more. And in other cases the regular priced item has 2 figures in side. And aside from some early series breakage issues, the figures are fairly durable.

    If Palisades did get the Sesame license I doubt the price would be as high as the muppet line. More retailers would be willing to pick the line up and thus volume would increase. The accessories probably wouldn't be as small as some of the muppe ones, but look at the rubber ducky that is suppose to come with Ernie. Pretty small. Palisades can only improve on this line.

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