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Discussion in 'Henson People' started by jgidley, Aug 16, 2012.
Does anyone have clips of Eric Jacobson's Cookie Monster?
People... for the millionth time... Eric Jacobson doesn't perform Cookie Monster, and never has. David Rudman performs Cookie Monster, Sesame Workshop chose to do this so both Grover and Cookie could be in scenes together without having to go to the extra trouble of dubbing one of the voices later.
It does bring a bit of curiosity because Eric seemed to master all of Frank's characters.
The pitch would seem a little screwy, though, because Eric seems to have a higher pitch to Frank's voices.
Right, but ironicly it seems like that to anyone who takes over a character. But yeah Eric's voices for Frank's characters seemed more raspy but when Frank does his character's they seem more relaxed and natual. But still it's amazing for someone that can do all Frank's voices very closely. As for Matt Vogel taking over Jerry's character's, his Robin is amazingly close but I wish I could say the same for the other characters. Floyd is simular but the voice seems more high pitched then Jerry's and Uncle Deadly in my opinion could sound more like Vincent Price and have the voice not so deep. Because wasn't Uncle Deadly a parody of Vincent Price to begain with? I know that Count Von Count is a parody of the original Universal Dracula's voice.
Who is this then?
I loved this from The Colbert Report and thought this was Eric Jacobson. Or David Rudman.
It's David, I can tell. Because there's a point where the voice breaks away from Franks' and sounds more like a David Rudman voice since his voices are very recognizable in my opinion.
Jerry's Uncle Deadly does sound a lot like Vincent Price now that I think about it. In my opinion, Matt's Robin sounds a lot like his Big Bird, and sounds sort of like Jerry. My reasoning is that Jerry didn't do a great job at hiding his voice, with the exception of characters like Lew Zealand, Crazy Harry, and the Count. But if you look at(or in this case, hear) characters like Floyd, Robin, or Gobo, you can definitely tell that it's Jerry.
(which also makes me wonder, if Matt does Gobo for the new movie, will it sound like Robin? Because Gobo and Robin sound a lot alike in my opinion)
Yeah like there's artists who can do so many voices and some you can just tell apart like some of the Muppet performers like Jerry, Jim and Frank. But Dave's voices are so far apart. Like how Gonzo, Bo, Zoot and Didget sound totally seperated that you can even tell. Even George the Janitor and Sam the Eagle don't sound like Fozzie or Bert, or Grover and Yoda. I think it's just natural. Even outside The Muppets, like South Park Trey Parker's voices are very simular and Matt Stone can do a little more. Same with Cheech can do more voices then Chong in the albums and soforth.
Yeah, Dave Goelz did a really good job at hiding his voice. I can't think of one character that I didn't recognize was voiced by Jim Henson immediately.
Right. lol Well Jim did to all the voices for The Muppets during Sam & Friends as well as most of the commercials in the 50s and 60s. Then Jerry Juhl (who basicly has 5 voices lol A little boy, a little girl, Grump on Ed Sullivan, A mad scientist in commercials and of course Temanella lol) and afterwords when he had his confidence in performing his voices Frank Oz, then Jerry and all the others.
But speaking of Matt Vogel, it's very ironic that he took over Jerry's Muppet Show characters shortly after Jerry's passing. But it's great that Jerry's characters can live on. Plus didn't Bill Beretta take over Lew Zeland for It's a Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie? That was the first time I noticed Jerry's characters being replaced.
But yeah, Eric Jacobson does really well with Frank's characters. I still remember watching the Ernie & Bert GPS commercial and just hearing Bert getting mad and screaming at Ernie, that was the first time I ever seen an angry Bert performed by Eric. Amazing. If you never seen the commercial, it's on the web somewhere. It's really funny and true to the spirit of the original Ernie and Bert trademark comedy. Which of course I really really miss. They were my favorite on Sesame and still are too. In my opinion the claymation versions in the current Sesame and Journey To Ernie, I personaly didn't like. That wasn't the Ernie & Bert I knew where Ernie makes a huge mess trying to find something to write a shopping list which resulted to chocolete pudding and Bert remark "I guess he's improving, last time he used Spagetti Sause" lol. Good Times.
But like relating to all of this, you just can't beat the originals. But it's great the characters are still continuing because it just builds the fanbase more and more and I think that's how Jim Henson wanted it after his passing.
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