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EM.TV to Sell Muppets to Jim Henson's Children for $89 Million

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Phillip, May 7, 2003.

  1. BlueFrackle Active Member

    Luke,

    As far as i know the Fraggles didnt have any animatronics inside them, I know Wembley had something going on inside him to make his eyes be able to look around. And maybe for Mokey's eyes to widen, But that can be done with something inside the head, Animatronics arent needed.

    I think we need someone to has recently seen the Fraggles to come and comment.

    Gobo, Wembley anf Junior Gorg were all in a German exhibition not too long ago. So we know they are ok.

    Alot of Doozers are still good too, Henson have alot and there are quite a few on the travelling tours.


    I think i read somewhere that it would cost 20,000 to make Bruno again. I think thats horse pucky.


    *Puzzled*
  2. frogboy4 Inactive Member

    BlueFrackle

    You know about puppets, so I have a question for you. It's been about 15 years since Fraggle Rock left the air and much has changed in available materials since then. Would it be possible for the Jim Henson puppet builders to use something (besides foam) for the Fraggles? A material that wouldn't degrage so badly? If so, they could make the Fraggle 5 (or 6) and keep them in perfect shape for years. The puppets might not be as great as the originals, but at least we'd have more of a chance at seeing them. It would also be a good investment for Henson because they could use them for new product shots etc. :excited:
  3. Super Scooter New Member

    I think the Muppet Workshop uses some different material for characters like Miss Piggy who are going to be used alot, to help them keep better. I think the materials they use for foam rubber characters have advanced since then, and they're getting sutff that will hold up longer.

    But, I'm not sure if this is correct. There might be, but, someone else better answer.
  4. Fozzie Bear Moderator

    They used foam rubber for the interiors back then, fleece exterior. The foam rubber is what degraded on us.

    I'm sure they still have the patterns. They should be able to just rebuild the exterior and stuff them with something new I'd think, just as has been said.
  5. BlueFrackle Active Member

    Jamie,

    Im not sure about that, But like Super Scooter said the stuff that they use now holds up longer than the stuff that they used back then.

    Im thinking they must have molded the heads or something, Otherwise i cant see where the 5,000 comes into it.

    I just dont get it.
  6. Luke Active Member

    I thought they were $2,000 ? I don't get it either BlueFrackle. Maybe the designs weren't kept or something ? I dunno, we'll have to ask someone.

    From what i had heard Mokey was the puppet in the worst condition.
  7. radionate New Member

    Bet its because Byron molested it.
  8. sarah_yzma Active Member

    *giggle* that's just *snort* gross

    Sarah
  9. beaker Well-Known Member

    On the subject of the state of Fraggle puppets:

    Hey guys

    on the subject of Fraggle puppets, I got to talk a little bit with KPrell at the Spinney book signing today. She mentioned that the original fraggle puppets arent doing to well(at least from the ones pulled out for the private FR reunion last June) but that she would love to have some sort of FR reunion or *something* at a future Muppetfest. I don't think she even knew if they had any refurbished/reconditioned Fraggles, but that now that the company is back with Henson there's more possibilities for stuff like that than before.

    Also, I talked to Caroll...he seemed delighted at the prospect of being able to be at the next Muppetfest, especially if it were to be in NYC(strangely enough he says he wasnt asked to be at the last MF, even though he wish he had known)

    So there ya have it! Two Muppeteers and their thoughts on MF!
  10. Luke Active Member

    Re: On the subject of the state of Fraggle puppets:

    Thats not suprising. As i said, i don't think the Sesame puppeteers or management were never asked to be a part of the first Muppetfest - Kevin Clash did Elmo basically because he happened to be there as a Henson puppeteer doing Clifford and has no other 'Classic Muppet' characters. I guess that brings up the question is if there was no Sesame segment at Muppetfest 1, then would they do it at Muppetfest 2 ? I guess theres more chance now the Henson kids are back but i guess Spinney etc would have to booked through SW if they were going to puppeteer but being in NY all the guys could turn up anyway like Goelz did at the SF book signing that Jamie went to.

    Good to hear you got to talk to Karen, but not so good to hear the Fraggle news confirmed. So did you give her some ideas for what they could do at a reunion if they can't get any puppets ?
  11. Fozzie Bear Moderator

    Karen is super cool!

    I still think a Fraggle movie would be rockin' (get it?) Wish she or Terry could pop in and tell us an update onwhat they think is going on with the patterns deal or possibilities of doing these things in a movie in the future.

    FOZ
  12. BlueFrackle Active Member

    Guys,

    We should take this to a new thread.

    Here, Ive started it - Fraggle Reunion

    I didnt know that Dave was at the SF signing!

    see ya
  13. Luke Active Member

    Don't know about Karen or Terry but the attitude at Henson towards doing anything new with the Fraggles has always been pretty unenthusiastic. I can understand why, some 'brand' orientated companies want to go back and revive old things but they never turn out as good as the original, and i don't think thats an area Henson really want to get into. I hear they are behind a DVD release though and i'm sure Karen and the rest would love to do something for the fans at any Fest or DVD commentaries etc.

    If they were to do anything new (as in production wise) with the Fraggles, i think it'd spoil it unless they had anything less than the same puppeteers and the same type of show. Bringing back the magic might wreck it totally otherwise.
  14. Jennifer12 New Member

    I just got my Entertainment Weekly in the mail and there is a small article that is not too complimentary about the idea of the Hensons managing the company. Basically, an un-named source who is "close to the company" says that they had a sky-high overhead and refused to ever fire anybody. I don't have it with me right now, so I can't quote directly, but there is also something about a deal with ABC that wasn't lived up to on the Henson side.

    My pet peeve: I hate it when magazines/newspapers qoute someone who claims to have information but is too afraid to let his or her name be printed. The information may be absolutely true in this case or in any other, but from my point of view someone who is afraid to step up and take responsiblity for their statement is not as reliable a source as a person willing to suffer fallout for telling the truth. Any clown can make up a story and claim to have inside information.
  15. frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Hmmm...inside source that knows about the ABC deal. Let me think. Could it be Eisner? LOL! Seriously I'm sure it's someone over at Disney slinging mud after the sour grapes of losing the bid they had 2 years to make! I am impressed that Henson tries to hold onto their employees. It's those people that make Henson what it is. I don't think people like Disney respect that. I don't think any source close to Disney or ABC should have the right to speak at the moment. The companies are doing rather poorly. :mad:
  16. Luke Active Member

    Yeah but Jamie, it was a bloated staff that led Henson to have a lot of the problems in the first place. They kept an entire workshop of puppet builders employed for ages when they didn't have any projects to build for. It doesn't stop there either. I know it's very respectable of them, but if they would have been realistic they wouldn't have had some of the problems they had.
  17. frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Well then they need to keep making projects to employ all the builders. Hey - they can start with the Fraggles. LOL! :excited: ;)
  18. Luke Active Member

    Amen to that FB ! :zany:
  19. Chilly Down Member

    Wow. So Karen showed up at one book signing, Dave at another...does anyone know if someone else showed up for the LA book signing? Alas, I can't afford Carroll's book right now.

    (We're getting close to post 300, folks. Just two more to go!)
  20. electricmayhem New Member

    Wow, I would have loved to meet Dave and Karen too! Jennifer, what issue of EW was that? The newest probably...

    (Just helping get to post 300...:) )

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