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Disney announces Muppet DVDs to be Pan & Scan

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Ken Plume, Apr 22, 2002.

  1. Ken Plume New Member

    Get out your trusty protest letters - Buena Vista Home Entrtainment has announced that the upcoming DVD releases of Muppet Treasure Island and Muppet Christmas Carol will be Pan & Scan - not anamorphic widescreen.

    If everyone jumps on the horse quick enough, you might be able to get them to reconsider their decision.

    Otherwise - disappointment city... Much like the Warner's Pan & Scan Follow That Bird.

    So here's your wake-up call... Contact BVHE and let your voice be heard... Just be polite about it.

    -Ken
  2. MuppetDanny Well-Known Member

    :o Why I'm not surprised, Disney treated the Muppets terriblely in the past, with only 10 titles were made in the UK and another 10 (I think:rolleyes: ) more. Also weird thing most Disney DVD titles are full screen, let's hope for the special features!

    Take care

    MuppetDanny
  3. MuppetQuilter Member

    Could someone post email and snail mail addresses so we know where to send out requests?

    I think the odds of getting a lot of people to request widescreen versions goes way up if it is relatively easy to find the necessary information....

    Thanks
  4. ZootandDingo Member

    Buena Vista Home Entertainment
    350 S. Buena Vista St.
    Burbank, CA 91521

    As for e-mail, go to this page and click the "Comments or questions" link at the bottom:
    http://psc.disney.go.com/disneyvideos/moviefinder/products/2578103.html
  5. Fozzie Bear Moderator

    See?? This is EXACTLY the way Disney will treat the Muppets if they purchased them!! Isn't it bad enough that they cut Bunsen and Beaker's ONLY MUSICAL NUMBER EVER in a motion picture from MCC when they put it on video?? They don't care about the Muppets, they just want that extra cash they'll get from owning them, and in the meantime they'll destroy them.

    But that's only how I feel, and all others are welcome to not feel that way.

    FOZ
  6. Electric Mayhem New Member

    I sent them an e-mail saying "Make the Muppet DVD's widescreen, or the mouse gets it!!!" I think that'll get their attention. :D

    OK, I didn't REALLY do that, but it sounded good.
    I did e-mail them though.
  7. Fozzie Bear Moderator

    I wrote them and here's what I writ...

    "In regards to the DVD releases of Muppet Treasure Island and Christmas Carol, I can't see why BVHV can't STOP chopping up films and just release the thing in its full glory as seen in the theaters? They already deleted the musical sequence for Bunsen and Beaker for the home video release, and it doesn't cost any more to have a wide-screen edition of both films. Did you see the horrible way that Warner Bros. desecrated the movie Follow that Bird?? Don't, PLEASE, don't destroy these two films. I won't buy them if you do, and I really do want them on DVD...but, if your company can't care enough about your product and the consumers' wishes, then I'll have to get with the Muppet Fan Family Community of people at MuppetCentral.com (and we're a bigger family than you think) and spread the word not to buy them. Sorry, but that's just how we all feel, and me especially. Please don't destroy two classic films.

    Thanks,
    Kev"

    of course, who you all know as FOZ! :)
  8. ZootandDingo Member

    They DID?? Which number was cut??
  9. Fozzie Bear Moderator

    Bunsen and Beaker's Deleted Scene...

    Good greif! Doesn't ANYBODY remember this?

    It was the ONLY musical number in any film for Bunsen and Beaker, "Room in your Heart."

    It's on the soundtrack and was in the theatrical release.

    I was SO disappointed to find out that they had cut it.

    Later, FOZ
  10. EmmyMik New Member

    Re: Bunsen and Beaker's Deleted Scene...

    Oooooooh. That song.

    I don't like that song.

    :)
  11. Chad Kermit New Member

    Muppet Christmas Carol DVD

    I don't understand the widescreen omission. Columbia put the pan and scan on one side and widescreen on the other for the classic Muppet films. Even when Disney released MCC on the Lazer Disc format they had a beautiful letterbox version of it on the Disc.

    I am showing favorites here. But I would be happy if they just did MCC, which over time will only become more of a classic each holiday season.

    Of course, it is little surprise. Disney for the most part does not offer a lot of bells and whistles on its DVDs for the most part. The exception is of course the Special Editions like Snow White. Even all the early successes they had with Bette Midler under the Touchstone label for the most part are unreleased on DVD. How many people would not want to get their hands on a letterboxed version of "Beaches". Well...not everyone of course but I for one would. lol One thing you have to applaud AOL for is that every year they release movies from their vaults since they own almost ALL of the old classics now. For instance I bought the "Big Sleep" on DVD and they dug up from the vaults an alternative cut of the film. So, on one dvd you get two versions of the same movie. And since family films tend to sell better than classics and adult fair, I don't understand disney's tactics. But one will never understand the mouse. Ok, this got way off track.

    Chad
  12. kustomboy New Member

    send an e-mail!

    i sent them an e-mail and i suggest everyone else does it too. Willy Wonka got a widescreen release because of this!
  13. smcguire New Member

    In addition to the addresses and web forms already mentioned here, you can call their video customer feedback line at:

    1-800-72-DISNEY

    and send them e-mail directly at:

    disneyinfo@disneyhelp.com

    --Scott McGuire
  14. Chad Kermit New Member

    Thanks!!!

    For the email and phone number to voice opinions to Disney Home Video about the upcoming DVD releases of the Muppet titles. I agree, the more that call and email: the more likely we are to get what we want.

    Chad
  15. Fozzie Bear Moderator

    UNITY IN NUMBERS!!

    Especially if we're ALL calling their phone number! They'll get the hint sooner or later, I think, how BIG the Muppet Fan Community is.

    FOZ
  16. Muppets1985 Member

    Okay im confused here first evey one complans here (even me!) about MCC and MTL NOT being on Disney DVD, well i just want to tell u that ALL the Disney DVD's that i have don't say a thing about Wide Screen (Only my Disney's Remmber the Titans & Disney/Touchstone Coyote Ugly say Wide Screen on the DVD box) look here are the names of all my Disney dvd and DON"T say Wide Screen on the DVD box but do show up as a Wide Screen on the TV: Pearl Harbor, Snow Whit & the 7 Dwarfs, Lady and the Tramp 2, The Emperor's New Groove, Recess: Schools out, Atlantis, Cinderella 2, HunchBack of Noter Dame 2, BedKnobs & BroomSticks, and Dumbo and Peter Pan, and Mr. Magoo! and ya see thay don't say wide screen but the movie shows up as Wide Screen and lol lol i have to zoom in becouse the black line's bug me!(lol) but any ways i DID call Disney and e-mailed them to have it in Wide Screen!! see ya - Even tho i have both Muppet movies on video, i DO plan to buy both DVD's now!!!
  17. Foreignman New Member

    I just wrote my letter. I really hope our letters get results. Plaease tell your friends to write too, we need all the hope we can get. Although I'm sure all us loyal Muppet fans will write in, there are only so many of us. So recruit, recruit, recruit!!! Thanks.:)
  18. Fozzie Bear Moderator

    Hiya,

    If "THAT'S" what kinda stuff you want to settle for, roll with it man. I just get tired of seeing all companies destroying great films by cutting scenes out that was in the theatrical version, or by going full-screen instead of wide-screen. I have a few Disney DVD's as well, but if I can POSSIBLY make a difference (and FOR THE BETTER), I plan on doing it! AMEN! :) I'm certainly going to be willing to buy the MCC and MTI IF they are wide-screen options. The thing they did with Follow that Bird was a ruination and I feel gipped!!
    ****************
    Here's what I got today:
    Subj: Re: Movie Finder Feedback/Comment/Question
    Date: 4/24/2002 6:17:11 AM Central Daylight Time
    From: DisneyMovieFinder@DisneyHelp.com
    To: FozzieMup@aol.com
    Sent from the Internet (Details)
    Kevin,
    Thank you for your email.
    Please call Walt Disney Home Entertainment's toll-free number: 1-800-723-4763
    (in Canada: 1-888-877-BVHE) for assistance.
    Hot releases. Cool deals. Click here to register with Disney Video & DVD - sign
    up to receive the Disney Video and DVD Insider Newsletter containing the latest
    offers from Walt Disney Home Video.
    http://disney.go.com/DisneyVideos/registrationa
    ****************
    Disney can't even respond to a consumer's wishes and say yea or nay. Anyhow, I'm going to call them, and I hope others do, too!

    Love to all,
    FOZ
  19. smcguire New Member

    I'm not sure the fact that your DVD boxes say "widescreen" on them or not is really relevant here. And even though they don't have the word "widescreen" on them, probably they say "1.85:1 aspect ratio" and "1.66 aspect ratio" as one of the features - that means "widescreen."

    Anyway, several major DVD sites have contacted Disney and confirmed that they are planning to release the two Muppet DVDs as full frame only.

    Buying the DVDs now despite this is tempting, but really sends the wrong message to Disney. We want to send them a message both in writing and via sales. If you want widescreen versions of the DVDs, do not buy these now. Call and write Disney and tell them you aren't buying them now, but you will buy them if they're released as widescreen.

    If Disney doesn't change their mind, you can always buy the DVDs later. But if they see tons of people buying the DVDs anyway, why would they listen to us?

    --Scott McGuire
  20. smcguire New Member

    Actually, it was Warner Brothers who released "Follow That Bird" as pan and scan, not Disney. Warners has been guilty of this with several "family" titles. Much as we are upset with Disney's decisions regarding the two Muppet DVDs, let's not blame them for other folk's mistakes too!

    I know someone else posted a web link with a feedback form, but I've been told by folks at DVD websites the best place to send your feedback is:

    1-800-72-DISNEY

    disneyinfo@disneyhelp.com

    (Yeah, yeah, i'm repeating myself here.)

    Definitely both call and e-mail Disney regarding the Muppet DVDs.

    --Scott McGuire / smcguire@mit.edu

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