A comment in response to the newest line of animated "babies":
DerekJ said:
"The way I understand it, it's the late Jim Henson that we really should blame for this toon baby thing.
By that I mean: Henson's the guy who basically invented this genre back in 1984, when he introduced the Muppet Babies in 'The Muppets Take Manhattan'"
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A little historical context about how we got the Muppet Babies in the first place might explain why every other company Just Isn't Getting It:
Henson claimed he had marketed the babies "based on their popularity on the movie"--But the chronology's a bit off, as some products were already being marketed months to a year before the movie, and the Babies don't even seem to make much sense in the movie and appear suspicously like an infomercial cameo...
Jim had always intended that the Babies would take over all future marketing for the "adult" Muppets, but the reasons why don't look too nice: At that point in his career, Jim was busy with "Labyrinth", had fallen in love with the studio's big-scale special-effect puppet work since "Dark Crystal", and believed that the Creature Shop would pay all the company's future bills...
As for his lil' foam pals, you can see him taking a condescending approach to the characters that the other writers and performers weren't, and as for the "new source of marketing", you don't have to be Freud to figure out what "Baby Kermit" was now doing in a playpen and being marketed to preschoolers.
(And the fact that "Labyrinth" DIDN'T singlehandedly build the company's future is why we still have Kermit around today, Michael Eisner notwithstanding...For the rest of his life, and sounding very much like Walt Disney and "Fantasia", Henson never could understand "why the movie had been such a flop".)
Of course, as the article says, once Saturday morning saw the ratings, everyone else got the idea, as it was getting harder to flog their franchises for one more concept. Disney and Sesame Street were naturals, since they knew which side their baby-marketing was buttered with new moms--
But as for Marvel, the idea of selling their comics to anyone under the age of 12 has literally been a -punchline- at the company since the early 90's: Never mind Baby Wolverine, if I was to say the words "Power Pack", would any fan know what I was talking about?...
August 29, 2006 11
DerekJ said:
"The way I understand it, it's the late Jim Henson that we really should blame for this toon baby thing.
By that I mean: Henson's the guy who basically invented this genre back in 1984, when he introduced the Muppet Babies in 'The Muppets Take Manhattan'"
----
A little historical context about how we got the Muppet Babies in the first place might explain why every other company Just Isn't Getting It:
Henson claimed he had marketed the babies "based on their popularity on the movie"--But the chronology's a bit off, as some products were already being marketed months to a year before the movie, and the Babies don't even seem to make much sense in the movie and appear suspicously like an infomercial cameo...
Jim had always intended that the Babies would take over all future marketing for the "adult" Muppets, but the reasons why don't look too nice: At that point in his career, Jim was busy with "Labyrinth", had fallen in love with the studio's big-scale special-effect puppet work since "Dark Crystal", and believed that the Creature Shop would pay all the company's future bills...
As for his lil' foam pals, you can see him taking a condescending approach to the characters that the other writers and performers weren't, and as for the "new source of marketing", you don't have to be Freud to figure out what "Baby Kermit" was now doing in a playpen and being marketed to preschoolers.
(And the fact that "Labyrinth" DIDN'T singlehandedly build the company's future is why we still have Kermit around today, Michael Eisner notwithstanding...For the rest of his life, and sounding very much like Walt Disney and "Fantasia", Henson never could understand "why the movie had been such a flop".)
Of course, as the article says, once Saturday morning saw the ratings, everyone else got the idea, as it was getting harder to flog their franchises for one more concept. Disney and Sesame Street were naturals, since they knew which side their baby-marketing was buttered with new moms--
But as for Marvel, the idea of selling their comics to anyone under the age of 12 has literally been a -punchline- at the company since the early 90's: Never mind Baby Wolverine, if I was to say the words "Power Pack", would any fan know what I was talking about?...
August 29, 2006 11