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It's why conservatives believe that all speech should be allowed, especially unpopular speech, because what is popular today may not be tomorrow.
Actually, you’re describing the ACLU.
 

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Again, you miss the point. True conservatism vs. what conservatism has become.

I actually outline one of the the hypocritical political beliefs a few pages back when talking about abortion. When talking about core values, supporting Roe v. Wade should actually a conservative view. It calls for less legislation and says the government should not have the power to make laws that interfere with basic rights. This is a conservative view. However, conservatives also tend to attract religious people who don't usually see Roe v. Wade as a rights issue, they see it as a religious issue.

You are confusing political conservatism with religious conservatism. Most people are actually politically conservative, in that they don't think the government should be governing our daily lives. It's basically what the libertarian party stands for since the connotative meaning of conservatism has changed.

So I suppose I am more libertarian than anything else. I don't think there should be any law saying who can use what bathroom. It's simply not a legal issue and should be decided by society. Same with marriage. Deciding who you get to marry is not the job of government.
Strange, I could have sworn I heard a conservative or two say that the U.S. should have laws based on the Bible.
 

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Why do you pick apart a post and then respond to it 3 different times?

Edit: I'm sorry, 5 different times. You say I wrote a book but at least it's one post.



Correct. Parties can change over time and evolve. The civil war was essentially what you described, states rights vs. civil rights. The southern states did not believe the federal government had the right to abolish slavery since it was not outlined in the constitution. This was because salves were not seen as people or citizens. It's also why the 14th amendment was passed.

I agree that the federal government can impose laws that prevent state government from infringing on the personal liberties of citizens. It's a checks and balance. The federal government is there to ensure all citizens are protected, including protect of guaranteed basic rights. Laws should only be passed to protect rights, not limit rights.

This does not mean that conservatism is inherently racist. It means that conservatism can be used by racists to justify their views. Just like liberalism isn't inherently socialist, but it can be used by socialists to justify their socialist views.
The further back you go
into history, the more racist conservatism gets.
 

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Why do you pick apart a post and then respond to it 3 different times?

Edit: I'm sorry, 5 different times. You say I wrote a book but at least it's one post.



Correct. Parties can change over time and evolve. The civil war was essentially what you described, states rights vs. civil rights. The southern states did not believe the federal government had the right to abolish slavery since it was not outlined in the constitution. This was because salves were not seen as people or citizens. It's also why the 14th amendment was passed.

I agree that the federal government can impose laws that prevent state government from infringing on the personal liberties of citizens. It's a checks and balance. The federal government is there to ensure all citizens are protected, including protect of guaranteed basic rights. Laws should only be passed to protect rights, not limit rights.

This does not mean that conservatism is inherently racist. It means that conservatism can be used by racists to justify their views. Just like liberalism isn't inherently socialist, but it can be used by socialists to justify their socialist views.
So I suppose I am more libertarian than anything else.
Everyone is a libertarian until it comes to something they don’t agree with.
 

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The further back you go
into history, the more racist conservatism gets.
The further back in history you go the more racist everything gets.

Strange, I could have sworn I heard a conservative or two say that the U.S. should have laws based on the Bible.
Sigh... again, skipping over the point of a post because you like to hear yourself talk rather than listen to others.

Why are you incapable of having an actual discussion and only try to misinterpret what people say?

Everyone is a libertarian until it comes to something they don’t agree with.
Not true. Some people don't actually give a **** what other people do as long as they are not forced to do it.

I honestly hope you are just some annoying teenager who doesn't know how to engage in conversation and only knows how to respond in the trolliest of ways online. I use to be like that until I grew up.

You are the type of person that refuses to ever see common ground and instead focuses only on what you disagree with and when you can't find something you disagree with you make it up.
 

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I honestly hope you are just some annoying teenager who doesn't know how to engage in conversation and only knows how to respond in the trolliest of ways online. I use to be like that until I grew up.
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And I used to stamp my foot, pout, and say that I "hate someone" for disagreeing with me until I grew up.
 

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The further back in history you go the more racist everything gets.
Really? Ever heard of the abolitionist movement? Even back then Liberals were trying to make Conservatives see sanity.
 

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Why do you pick apart a post and then respond to it 3 different times?

Edit: I'm sorry, 5 different times. You say I wrote a book but at least it's one post.
Because I didn't know it was a contest to see who could write the fewest number of posts by dragging everyone out as an essay.
 

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Liberalism requires that people are naturally good and this will always do what is right for the others.
Actually, that's the conservative belief that thinks we need no regulation because people, left to their own devices, will always do what's right. They believe this in spite of a history of child labor, environmental abuses, discrimination, and other evils by fat cats in power.
 
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