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Yep, I totally remember the 90s. That's my childhood. My best friend (who I knew him since we were 8) told me that he discovered Looney Tunes on Nickelodeon and I discovered them on TNT plus my Grandmother always bought those public domain videos with famous cartoons on them, every video had the same cartoons on them. lol Funny how you mentioned about the t-shirts robodog, I used to have this black background t-shirt of Daffy Duck crying. Anyone remember this? I found a childhood picture of myself wearing it. There was also some good murchandise that I remember having like there's these action figures that were slapsticky like Elmer Fudd looking confused with a tyed up gun in a knott and Sylvester with his tale cought in a mouse trap. I think they were from 1993, I want those figures back. lol There was also this game called Smash'Em where you have play dough molds of the characters and it's like a board game but you have these plastic props like a heavy safe or a giant boot where you can smash them and leave marks. That was fun to and that was from 1993 I think.
Though I wanted to ask about the executive meddling thing Dr Tooth was talking about. I remember reading about that on how Executives once they have full rights to a property, they can legally do anything they want to it even if unmoral. As an artist myself I've always tried to watch my back on that sort of thing, though threw pitching stuff and being quite insulted by executives who don't get it, I manage to just make art on my own and figure out new directions with my art. I was watching the Monty Python Almost the Truth Lawyers Cut on tv and I remember Terry Gilliam saying on how back then the industry was like a pyramid, lots of talent on the bottom and very few executives but now a days it's upside down there's few talent and more executives on top deciding what should and shouldn't be distributed. Also I liked how you mentioned how it seems like the current humor is aimed at 4 year old and how Hollywood needs to stop aiming at them. I totally agree on that and it's quite interesting because while taking a journalism class in college, and even TV production there was a golden rule on how you must write as if you were having 6 year olds reading it. I've even been told while pitching how executives worry about distributing something that's smart and brilliant because it would alienate the majority audience who would rather be entertained then be challenged to think. I hate to sound negitive on this but, doesn't it seem like the entertainment industry has gone to more to a dumbing down target? To me entertainment is suppose to be unlimited in terms of ideas but it seems like executives fear so much so on things that which proved itself to be successful back in the day to not be so much today. I'm not sure if it's culture or whatever the complex sociology theory is. But creative freedom and expression seems to rare in the mainstream today and it kind of was in the 80s animation. John K sort of broke that door down when Ren & Stimpy came about and Nickelodeon gave oppertunaties and most of those cartoonists were very Looney Tunes, classic animation influenced. But now it's like the system has hardened itself where not only new artists can't get oppertunaties but even legendary artists are still pitching and looking for new work. But on a positive note, I'm very happy that Warner Bros released a good deal of the cartoons on the Golden Collection DVDs uncut, they still need to release all of them and Tex Avery.
But anyway I totally agree with jvcaroll about good comedy writers and even that is quite rare, especially people who know cartoon logic. It seems like everything in comedy is too real. When CGI movies come out it's "Check out my silly dance" and another character says "Wow, that's awkward." when I see that I'm like "THAT'S THE JOKE?" It might work with people who watch Family Guy, people who like that kind of deadpan comedy but me personally, I like the slapstick, character comedy, with a hint of satire and at times some grim dark humor something like the 90s Addams Family movies. I liked those more then the TV show.
A quick question though, is a Blaxploitation film a b-movie that features African Americans in those action films and stuff like that? I really want to see that Dracula Blaxploitation film myself, I think The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy based their version of Dracula on that.
Back to the Looney Tunes movie, I'm not sure which is coming first. This or the rumored since 2010 CGI Bugs Bunny movie. I know that a CGI Woody Woodpecker is coming out either this new year or 2014. Either way, I'm hiding under my bed and locking the doors. lol CGI cartoon revivals always look so ugly and scary looking and not as cute as actual 2D drawn characters are.
Though I wanted to ask about the executive meddling thing Dr Tooth was talking about. I remember reading about that on how Executives once they have full rights to a property, they can legally do anything they want to it even if unmoral. As an artist myself I've always tried to watch my back on that sort of thing, though threw pitching stuff and being quite insulted by executives who don't get it, I manage to just make art on my own and figure out new directions with my art. I was watching the Monty Python Almost the Truth Lawyers Cut on tv and I remember Terry Gilliam saying on how back then the industry was like a pyramid, lots of talent on the bottom and very few executives but now a days it's upside down there's few talent and more executives on top deciding what should and shouldn't be distributed. Also I liked how you mentioned how it seems like the current humor is aimed at 4 year old and how Hollywood needs to stop aiming at them. I totally agree on that and it's quite interesting because while taking a journalism class in college, and even TV production there was a golden rule on how you must write as if you were having 6 year olds reading it. I've even been told while pitching how executives worry about distributing something that's smart and brilliant because it would alienate the majority audience who would rather be entertained then be challenged to think. I hate to sound negitive on this but, doesn't it seem like the entertainment industry has gone to more to a dumbing down target? To me entertainment is suppose to be unlimited in terms of ideas but it seems like executives fear so much so on things that which proved itself to be successful back in the day to not be so much today. I'm not sure if it's culture or whatever the complex sociology theory is. But creative freedom and expression seems to rare in the mainstream today and it kind of was in the 80s animation. John K sort of broke that door down when Ren & Stimpy came about and Nickelodeon gave oppertunaties and most of those cartoonists were very Looney Tunes, classic animation influenced. But now it's like the system has hardened itself where not only new artists can't get oppertunaties but even legendary artists are still pitching and looking for new work. But on a positive note, I'm very happy that Warner Bros released a good deal of the cartoons on the Golden Collection DVDs uncut, they still need to release all of them and Tex Avery.
But anyway I totally agree with jvcaroll about good comedy writers and even that is quite rare, especially people who know cartoon logic. It seems like everything in comedy is too real. When CGI movies come out it's "Check out my silly dance" and another character says "Wow, that's awkward." when I see that I'm like "THAT'S THE JOKE?" It might work with people who watch Family Guy, people who like that kind of deadpan comedy but me personally, I like the slapstick, character comedy, with a hint of satire and at times some grim dark humor something like the 90s Addams Family movies. I liked those more then the TV show.
A quick question though, is a Blaxploitation film a b-movie that features African Americans in those action films and stuff like that? I really want to see that Dracula Blaxploitation film myself, I think The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy based their version of Dracula on that.
Back to the Looney Tunes movie, I'm not sure which is coming first. This or the rumored since 2010 CGI Bugs Bunny movie. I know that a CGI Woody Woodpecker is coming out either this new year or 2014. Either way, I'm hiding under my bed and locking the doors. lol CGI cartoon revivals always look so ugly and scary looking and not as cute as actual 2D drawn characters are.
